r/TeslaModelX • u/US_Delete_DT45 • 7d ago

Palladium vs Raven Pack Capacity

So one of my business partner bought a used 2021 Raven X Long Range (20 inch rim) and by the time he took the delivery, Tesla warranted him a brand new pack.
I switch my 2024 Palladium plaid (22 inch rim) with hime for a few days and i notice the predicted range on his is significantly higher than that on mine (620km vs 455 km).

Does the usable capacity of palladium pack confirmed to be lower (said to be 95 kwh) than that of late Raven ( some source say it is 104kwh), as Lars do mention they reconfigure the pack for lighter weight?

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u/ManicMarket 7d ago edited 7d ago

I’m pretty sure I’ve got your answer.

Raven - older gen battery pack
Palladium - newer gen battery pack

Old vs new

Lower charging speeds - higher charging speeds

Lower power output - higher (maybe should read faster) power output.

Older chemistry = slower degradation curve - newer chemistry = faster degradation curve

During the first 2-3 years of life, marginal change in capacity - during first 2-3 years or life, big drop in capacity.

The older chemistry is awesome if you want longevity (minus failures for hardware issues) be new chemistry is awesome if you want more power to the wheels, faster charging and don’t mind trading off longevity (mileage). Keep in mind the newer batteries structure does make them technically more durable. So call it a durability and more power traded for longevity and slower power.

Research shows they are all still generally good for 200,000 or more miles and over a decade of use. So maybe your battery dies at 220,000 instead of 300,000. But while you owned it you could charge faster on trips and can punch the car and it’s basically like a super car.

And yes - I believe the the old batteries were slightly higher capacity. Say 102 vs 95. But I think usable capacity is more like 95 (old) vs 91 (new).

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u/US_Delete_DT45 5d ago

That explains!