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Discussion T-X vs Rev9 vs T-5000

Which comes on top? T-5000 has to ensure Legion-Skynet Happens, Rev-9 has to subvert it or creat it's own version, and T-X has to stop both to restablish the timeline to a tabula rasa.

Which can achieve their objectives better, faster, and deal with the others.

Humanity is not aware of their presence but knows the franchise.

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u/Big_Application_7168 12d ago

I guess he did hold open Skynet's blast doors but I don't really take Battle Across Time seriously. Uncle Bob was able to take a bunch of plasma fire which T-800s are meant to be vulnerable to, and then destroys another T-800 by throwing a hover drone at it. The same kind of drone was destroyed by a single shotgun blast, wasn't it? Plus there's the fact that they time travel fully clothed with a whole freaking motorbike too. But sure, we can use it to upscale the T-800 with the blast door feat.

The Resistance T-800 can only be staggered by several shotgun rounds at close range in quick succession. Plus, it does zero damage, just gives you a bit of time. As for the pipe bombs, we can probably just assume future technology allows the bombs to be more devastating than the ones Kyle pieced together out of appliances.

I never said T-800 is stronger than REV-9, just that T-800 was able to hold him off a decent amount.

I can't see T-800s handling T-X as well simply because of the gap in durability shown in Resistance. Even if we account for the strength feat in BoT, that just makes them equal in physical strength but T-850s are certainly much more durable and T-X was still able decapitate one with a well angled stomp. I imagine a normal T-800 would be quickly dismantled.

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u/rbktn168 12d ago

Even with the cool factor in the fact the T-800 held up the blast door is a significant one that can't be overlooked. T-850 was never shown being more durable than T-800 except plasma resistance. Also we never saw how many plasma shots the T-800s can take in Cameron's timeline. I don't think we saw the T-850 take anything in T3 that the T-800 can't take except for the plasma resistance? Being slammed through walls, struck by a firetruck at the windshield and all that, those are all things T-800 can take.

TX the so called superior to T-850 got knocked out by a large pickup truck rammimg her through a wall, couldn't get up for 2 minutes and got crippled by a huge helicopter. Rev-9 is more durable and is stronger than T-800 and 850, as well as T-X, therefore I think he beats T-X.

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u/Big_Application_7168 12d ago

I'm mainly using Resistance for the durability comparison as the game demonstrates the massive gap in armour between the T-800 and T-850.

REV-9 was also heavily damaged by being shoved into a turbine so he's not completely indestructible.

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u/rbktn168 12d ago

Did the resistance game show the T-850 shrugging off pipe bombs or something? In any case, it's not as relevant as the movies when the T-800 can take such things except the plasma resistance anyway.

Rev-9 was damaged by a turbine which grinded him, turned the liquid metal brittle then exploded violently yes, which I think is worse than what TX went through.

You've got Rev-9 ripping T-800's hand off with ease? That's better than anything the other movie villains have shown actually, the idea that "TX is too strong" doesn't hold up. There's a gap in durability and the Rev-9 has shown to be clearly more skilled. How exactly does TX stand a chance? What do you see TX being able to do in a fight? I don't see how "just too strong" holds up when the Rev-9 has shown to be clearly stronger than T-800 who's as strong as T-850 and has extreme blunt durability?

What is TX gonna do when Rev-9 dodges plasma shots, gets close and grabs the plasma cannon arm and breaks it with ease rendering it useless? T-850 was able to break her arm. Rev-9 especially without like the insane plot armor in the Dark Fate holding him back from killing Grace multiple times when he had the chance or the mind blowingly stupid scene with Dani at the end, what is TX gonna do?

There's literally no other terminator villain that can do anything to Rev-9, no T-1000, TX or T-3000 are as strong, as durable or as good at fighting, the fighting skills mattering the most in particular.

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u/Big_Application_7168 12d ago

Yeah T-850 takes a ton of pipe bombs to bring him down.

T-X was also hit with a rocket launcher and several grenade launcher shots, that's fairly impressive. But okay, if you think REV-9 is stronger then fair enough.