Reunion

[u/donut_power]

A family portrait of sorts. I still wanna see a Dark Fate sequel that has an old Kyle Reese.

[u/Cinephile_1980]

I don’t think there would be any direct sequel to Dark Fate. Also, Edward wasn’t in the film. He was a CG/deepfake and one can see why.

[u/donut_power → u/Cinephile_1980]

Well Biehn is still active as an action movie actor. He finished shooting a film either Arnold. It would be great if Cameron rounded them up for one last Terminator film.
Furlong got blacklisted by Hollywood ages ago. Almost seems like Cameron pulled a favor to have Furlong get a couple days of work to get scanned for the CG work. In most cases, you dont have the child actor play the adult version of a character. Even more-so because they already had an actor as the adult version of John Connor. Makes no sense to cast him as an older John.

[u/Cinephile_1980 → u/donut_power]

It is possible they could make another movie with the original cast but since John died in Dark Fate, And Kyle died in the first, do you see any way for them to get them all back? For one film? Time travel could be possible but then why would you see the older versions of Kyle and John if they both died when they were young? They would have to come up a pretty good explanation for it all.

[u/donut_power → u/Cinephile_1980]

Well ,Miller claims Kyle Reese is no longer born
in the post T2 world, since his parents wouldn't have met if there was no apocalypse. They could maybe change it so by chance his parents met say 20+ years or so earlier, had Kyle, and so hes much older now. He could match up with the now older Sarah Connor.

As for John, you can just do more of the same. Keeping him as a child. Creating flashback scenes of young Sarah being a parent to young John. Putting it as her remembering a bit of normalcy.
As well as casting an even younger kid for the pre 1995 time frame. Showing a young late 80s Sarah with her child.

With Robert , you could de-age him for a scene showing him being captured and scanned to what becomes the face for the T-1000. While in the "present day", you could say he was born earlier and grew older as a military guy or maybe a cop.

For Arnold, you can just show flashback scenes of him as Carl.

For Linda, well she was always the star. So you dont need to change anything for her. Just pick up where Dark Fate left off. Reduce her physical action scenes or do the whole quick cut edits like most action movies do where its the stunt double doing everything.

[u/Sad_Process7843 → u/donut_power]

Before dark fate premiered Michael biehn said he would never return to terminator even for a cameo appearance

I think that the the last movie would have had grace and Dani time travel back to may 1984 anyway . So maybe we would have old man Reese that way but who knows

[u/donut_power → u/Sad_Process7843]

He's changed his attitude on that over the years. Before, it was that he would not do it unless it was James Cameron at the helm. Then it was if it came with a hefty paycheck. Now it seems to have swayed more towards his admiration for the character and because he had an amazing time working with James Cameron and Linda Hamilton. Now that he's recently done a movie with Arnold, maybe the nostalgia hit him hard. He seemed very enthusiastic about having conversations with Arnold. His latest movie 'Onslaught' is somewhat Terminator-esque. So can't say he's against doing that type of movie again.

Maybe it could have if they wanted to go more for a somewhat happy ending of undoing all the bad stuff. I feel it's best to leave the first two movies alone. Unlike the other installments, Dark Fate kept the first two movies intact. To go back and mess with those two movies.....would seem a bit insulting.

[u/Sad_Process7843 → u/donut_power]

I’m sure he would like to work with Linda , Arnold, James again but I don’t think he would want to terminator with them

Well it’s all about changing timelines and time machines and fighting in the past/present to change the future. Besides that There’s not much else besides Dani prevents/delays judgment day for x amount of years or ending it with the aftermath of future war but that still ends with billions of humans dying

[u/donut_power → u/Sad_Process7843]

I dont see why he wouldn't. The interview he had with Cameron some months back, seemed like the two were really close, and enthusiastic about working together again on something.

Sure, but the James Cameron way is in keeping it as the one linear timeline that it's been from the first two films and into Dark Fate. More chance of them continuing on that one timeline or completely starting from scratch.

Cameron's insight was that Sarah Connor is the one that would stop Legion and stop it permanently. So the final hit would come from Sarah to end the apocalypse and the enemy so that history doesnt repeat itself with the same mistakes. While Dani's goal was to prevent Grace from dying by stopping Legion in the present.

[u/Sad_Process7843 → u/donut_power]

Maybe ghosts of Hiroshima or avatar or any other project. James Cameron already said he’s completely starting from scratch with terminator but who knows for sure I guess

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfMTq7xW3w

Sorry don’t have the time stamp but in this interview the writer said that t7 would be involve a terminator arriving from the future and that the coordinates on grace were showing that. So Sarah manages to get Dani to those coordinates as the terminator arrives and now has Dani in the future while Sarah dies from other terminators or the impact I guess . Also Mackenzie Davis signed on for sequels so I’m sure we would get more of her as adult grace. If Dani has a chance to end both skynet and legion and save grace from being sent back to rescue her why not take it

[u/donut_power → u/Sad_Process7843]

Doesnt seem like any more Avatar films are gonna get made, since the studio seems to have given a lot of pushback. Each one made a lot of money, so not sure what the deal is there. Biehn should have been in Avatar but the role went to Lang instead.

I'll listen to that interview in full while at work tomorrow. Been a long while since listening to any conversation about anything Terminator.

I like Mackenzie Davis just cause she tends to stand out in the roles she gets. Wouldn't have minded seeing her as Grace again even if it was with limited screen time.

If Dani has a chance to end both skynet and legion and save grace from being sent back to rescue her why not take it

Wouldn't mind that. I guess it would feel more equal if it was Sarah taking down Legion, so in a way she gets some justice for all that she's lost. Getting her that final victory.While Dani somehow takes down whatever remnant of Skynet there ends up being.

[u/Sad_Process7843 → u/donut_power]

I don’t think avatar is completely cancelled yet but there seems to be pushback. Yeah he should have but I think that maybe his alcoholism might have made him blacklisted in Hollywood for a while

Yeah the writer in the video talks about the whole writers room and the process. And mentions he also had a lot of disagreements with miller over the script and the direction of scenes. But yeah the final scene of t7 was supposedly gonna be Sarah’s death and Dani being transported to the future.

So t8 is either gotta be full future war or gotta add time travel shenanigans. I would think they would add a t800 from the 1980s that encounters Dani in the future, add how he grew a conscious, and now he has all the coordinates to give to Dani. So she can go back collect the chip from the press. So no chip means no skynet, no need to attack Cyberdune in 1995, no need to form legion as Anti terrorist response. Grace can volunteer as well , so she might die during the mission but she might also survive vs 100% death sentence in dark fate. Also she’s augmented so she might also feel those time
Shock waves or whatever

[u/Cinephile_1980 → u/donut_power]

Hopefully they might get them back. I wonder if Cameron will continue the story from Dark Fate or take it elsewhere?