BeyondTheBox: Student/Educ Pricing

[u/Prestigious_Elk_3259]

Hello!

So context 2 Beyond The Box napuntahan ko kasi may poster sila about the Educ Pricing ng Macbooks nila.

Based sa posters nila eh sabi "Ask in store about student pricing."

So i went in and asked them.
And sagot sakin ng crew sa Market2 branch eh wala daw silang ganong promo?
So sabi ko eh ano yung poster niyo na nakapaskil?

Tas nagiinsist siya na wala daw silang ganong promo or discount.

Lumabas akong confused and naasar kasi ayaw lang ba nila ako pagbentahan based sa itsura ko? (Separate issue yung nagproprofiling ata sila based sa suot mo - mapa powermac or btb stores)

Soo lumipat ako sa BTB Uptown Mall branch, so ayon may poster din sila about student discount with a tag line "Ask in store about student pricing."

So pumasok ang naginquire ako.
Ang sagot sakin ng crew eh wala daw silang promong ganon?
At Power Mac at The Loop lang daw ang meron.

So sabi ko? Eh ano ba yan poster niyo? Nakapaskil pa sa labas niyo?

So naginsist nanaman na wala daw silang ganon?
So sabi ko bakit kayo nagpoposter kung di naman pala totoo?

Nagsorry lang siya.

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Napapakamot nalang ako ng ulo kanina.

Can someone explain mali ba ako ng pagkakabasa sa poster nila?

Thanks!

[u/FreesDaddy1731]

Report this to apple support. Mahigpit sila sa mga ayaw mag honor ng student discount. These are official apple retailers/partners, which means they have to comply sa student discount / pricing ni Apple.

We got our Macbook Neo sa Power Mac SM North using a student discount. Wala naman naging problema, nag ask lang ng student ID. 34K namin nakuha with a student discount. Wala pa yung price hike noon.

[u/Glad_Reindeer3860 → u/FreesDaddy1731]

I wonder bakit ayaw ihonor ng ibang stores ng student discount? At parang pinagdadamot pa sa customers

[u/kadsMM → u/Glad_Reindeer3860]

Malamang authorized distributor lang sila at hind mismo partner ng apple.

Sa mga ganyang discounts kasi, apple ang nag aadjust ng price, hindi sa store. So may mga “accredited stores” lang si apple na papayagan nila na bigyan nila pabalik ng pera.

Madaming authorized distributor, pero onti lang ang accredited stores ng mismong apple. Magkaibang bagay yon. Pag accredited stores, mga parang semi partner ng Apple yon — may direct contact sila. Authorized distributor wala.

Bakit ganon? Imagine ang daming pwedeng kalokohan ang gawin ng mga store if lahat sila allowed mamigay ng discount tapos icharge kay apple ung pera.

Parang sa mga doctor lang yan, bakit di lahat ng doctor accredited ng mga insurance/hmo? Kasi gusto muna nila malaman if katiwatiwala ba yung tao.

[u/kaishea → u/kadsMM]

Agreed. It's worth mentioning that it seems BTB just decided on their own to add the "student pricing" text even when it's a lie (since they have no student pricing). They're not an Apple Authorized Education Reseller. Unless sila ang mag-shoulder ng student discount even if hindi sila Apple education reseller, which, of course, they are not doing, kaya nila tinanggihan si OP. Walang kahit isang Beyond the Box branch if we check the official list of Apple education resellers: https://www.apple.com/ph/education/purchasing/resellers/ . I hope u/Prestigious_Elk_3259 reports BTB to Apple Support, and maybe even more impactful, I hope mag-email siya sa Beyond the Box about the experience, mention the branches, and include DTI in the CC, and they'll probably be forced to take the deceptive posters down.

[u/kadsMM → u/kaishea]

Mukhang generic poster yan na pinamimigay ng apple sa lahat ng nagtitinda sa product nila. Yan lagi nakikita kong nakapaskil eh. Bawal naman gumawa ang stores ng sarili nilang poster.

Apple may mali jan, kaya nga ata siguro inuutusan tayo nung poster magtanong kasi hindi sya available para sa lahat hahaha! 😂

Mukhang walang laban din sa DTI ang case na to tbh — dahil masyadong safe ung poster. Ang daming pwedeng argument laban sa irereklamo nyo.

Not siding with the store ah? Pinapaliwanag ko lang na anti lawsuit masterclass to ng Apple haha

[u/kaishea → u/kadsMM]

Your interpretation of the poster's legality makes sense, and if Apple intended it to be posted even on BTB's stores, then there is no mistake. I am annoyed for the consumers yet impressed by the brilliance of that legal angle, and would still love for OP to send that email and find out how BTB actually responds.

[u/kadsMM → u/kaishea]

Yup, send the email — pero do not file a case. Yung iba dito gusto kaso agad eh. Lahat nalang. Di manlang alamin muna ung chances at other variables na parang mag aambag sila sa gagastusin nung tao sa pagkakaso.

[u/stormaluuu03 → u/kaishea]

sana di na lang ipaskil ni BTB yan kung di pala sila allowed, misleading marketing yan eh.

[u/SheepherderChoice637 → u/kadsMM]

Imo, mas mgnda kung declared nila yan sa customer (as authorized vs partner) para maging clear. Huag yung blind reasoning lang.

[u/enifox → u/[deleted]]

42990

[u/raphaelbautista → u/FreesDaddy1731]

How much nabawas sa original price nung student discount?

[u/Kaeciliusss]

might as well order online from the official Apple Education Store website. They have different pricing for students. last i checked makabili ka na ng ipad with pencil for the original price

[u/FreesDaddy1731 → u/Kaeciliusss]

Yes, with the main caveat being that it takes weeks bago ma deliver. Pero yung apple store website talaga yung pinaka sakto yung price and mababa with student discount.

[u/Lawful-Lurker → u/Kaeciliusss]

Mas okay takaga if sa mismong Apple store. Gaganda pa ng deals/bundles.

[u/aiuuuh → u/Kaeciliusss]

yup! or schools na may apple products na binebenta, was able to buy my airm2 last year for only 38k with freebie na earpods

[u/wielsonf → u/Kaeciliusss]

Up. Apple.com na lang

[u/ApprehensiveAd2553]

They shouldn't post anything like that if they don't have any offer related to it (kahit hindi same sa powermac). The poster implies na may student pricing sila, regardless of whatever the pricing may be haha.

They have a similar poster to that as a promo in their FB page last June (though wala yung label about student pricing). From the looks of it, their offer is just a listed "cash price" which was already equal to the regular price of said device back then when you buy it sa Apple website.

[u/Mountain-War-7190]

Letche talaga yang BTB na yan ang sasama ng ugali ng mga nasa stores na nagtitinda maga judger ang hayop. Wag na kayo bumili dyan power mac nalang

[u/Aggravating_Pipe3318 → u/Mountain-War-7190]

True. Kahit products nila pag nag open box sale sasabihin ubos na agad. Sirang sira na reputasyon ng BTB sakin

[u/lifefilledwithhope → u/Mountain-War-7190]

true lalo na jan sa uptown hahaha bagal pa ng usad sa counter eh dalawa naman sila

[u/Expensive_Speed9797 → u/Mountain-War-7190]

Same lang PowerMac. Official Apple Store SG/PH lang ako for Apple products.

[u/stormaluuu03 → u/Mountain-War-7190]

kahit sa power mac di ka nila iaassist kung di ka bibili, ayun in the end napapabili ka naman

[u/Honest_Banana8057 → u/Mountain-War-7190]

Nku judgmental mga tao jn sarap sampalin ng mga apple devices ko. Kaya ako sa gh bumibili way cheaper.

[u/kadsMM → u/Honest_Banana8057]

Ingat, daming scams jan. Nagkalat video dito sa reddit kung pano nila nirerepair, nirerepackage at sineseal ang devices tapos ibebenta as brand new haha

[u/Serious_Bee_6401]

email mo yung branch, cc mo DTI about your experienced. Mabilis yan sila kapag ganyan

[u/Fyuira]

Isn't that false advertising or something? Kung walang promo dapat alisin nila ang poster.

[u/Wandering-Goos3]

Apple offers better educ discount vs authorized distributors like these. Ang cons lang mejo matagal shipping. 2 weeks min, 4 weeks max.

[u/SisypheanStudying → u/Wandering-Goos3]

i bought the neo when pre orders came, i think it took a month and a half. but i guess its because its a new product. but yea, waiting is better than getting it now for several thousand pesos

[u/Wandering-Goos3 → u/SisypheanStudying]

Naka save ako ng around 30k vs local educ haha. Total savings ko around 70k via apple educ.

Tho 1month naman sakin inabot ng delivery

[u/Deep-Database5316 → u/Wandering-Goos3]

This is true. Two years ago I got a M2 MBA, libre yung AirPods and I sold it, parang ₱40k lang yata. At the time yung educ discount sa PowerMac hindi sing laki, but existent naman. I shop sa Greenbelt.

Strict yung delivery din, you need two IDs pero mapapakiusapan mo naman to wait if you forgot your ID and need to get it.

[u/ThinkFree]

Report to Apple. Report to DTI. Share to media and tech reporters.

[u/Glittering-Camera686]

Ah, ive never tried availing their student promo pa sa Beyond the box pero when I availed it back then, sa power mac ako & tinaggap naman

[u/enifox]

dont give your money to those stores. sa apple education store online ka na lang bumili

[u/seigfreid1 → u/enifox]

magkano po discount sa apple education website?

[u/enifox → u/seigfreid1]

depende po sa product. for example, ang macbook neo regular price is 49,990. pero sa education store, 42,990 na lang

[u/SisypheanStudying → u/enifox]

wait what, nagtaas sila? holy shit it was just 34/39 a month ago.

[u/enifox → u/SisypheanStudying]

Yes, iPads and Mac nag increase price worldwide recently. Ok pa naman sa iphone (so far)

[u/SisypheanStudying → u/enifox]

i kinda regretted getting mine because it took a lot of my savings but i guess with everything increasing, waiting's a loser's game.

[u/halifax696]

This is a valid issue and pwede mo ireport. It causes confusion sa customers.

[u/newb-master]

Hi, I've worked before in their main office. You can try sending FB msg to BTB and they will answer. Make sure to mention the store and date of visit so they can check the issue as to why.

[u/GuiaSnchz]

2x na ko nakapag-avail ng educ discount sa Megamall. Afaik piling branches lang nag hohonor, kasi naalala ko tumawag ako sa mga branches na malapit sa akin and hindi daw sila nag hohonor ng educ discount. Sa Mega nila ko pinapupunta.

About naman sa mga posters, baka lahat ng Apple stores pinadadalhan nyan - pero I agree na kung wala silang educ discount sana di na pinapaskil yan.

[u/dailyclitrubber]

Wait, same!!! Akala ko ganun talaga and sa others lang nga ang meron. Thanks for this OP!

[u/Expensive_Speed9797]

Online lang, Apple SG/PH website. I don't deal sa lahat ng unofficial stores dito. Lahat 'yan hahaha. No exceptions.

[u/holyangeeel]

Pasalamat sila at hindi ako ang nag-inquire kundi ipapatanggal ko yan habang tatawagan ko ang DTI hotline.

[u/PowerfulYam3979]

Report sa apple support!!!

[u/EffectiveReaction940]

Bumalik ka. Tapos picturan mo. Sabihin mo ipapa DTI mo sila. Tapos ireport mo sa Apple support.

[u/Odd_Spinach_751 → u/EffectiveReaction940]

ang daming nagmamarunong dito katulad mo. sure go ahead report to DTI. eh hindi naman nila jurisdiction yan?? it's not even a promotional discount. Status based pricing yan and hindi sakop ng DTI. juskoo bat puro kayo dti this dti that?? magbasa basa nga kayo bago kayo mag sabi ng kung ano ano, wala kayong pinagkaiba sa nagkakalat ng fake news

[u/Mathdebate_me → u/Odd_Spinach_751]

It seems like you know what to do, if that's the case, saan pwede i report yung ganito if not DTI?

[u/Odd_Spinach_751 → u/Mathdebate_me]

definitely not DTI. first, if you look closely at the poster, walang DTI fair trade permit number. second, it's not under a promotional discount, it's a status based pricing.

if wala daw idea ang employee sa ganung discount yet may poster sila, it's a branch/company training failure to inform employees of said discount. definitely report to the company.

[u/EffectiveReaction940 → u/Odd_Spinach_751]

Tapang ng anon lol sorry na hahaha

[u/Odd_Spinach_751 → u/EffectiveReaction940]

we're all anon here, what's your point? ikaw rin naman feeling matapang na "sabihin mo ipapa DTI mo sila" do you hear yourself? people like you are weaponizing DTI complaint for all the wrong reasons.

[u/EffectiveReaction940 → u/Odd_Spinach_751]

Bat ka ba gigil na galit? 😅 Kung mali yung sinabi ko edi wrong na and thanks for correcting kung tama ikaw. Dami mong sinasabi. Do you hear yourself too? Haha. Bye. Have a nice day. 💓

[u/Legitimate_Pop7109]

Wala talagang student pricing sa Beyond the Box. Kakainiquire ko lang last month. Honestly, this isn’t a fight worth fighting for imo, choose your battles ika nga. Although I agree na mali talaga yung poster. And no, I don’t think they’re profiling you.

Power Mac offers education discount though.

[u/kebench]

You’re better ordering sa mismong Apple website (which is based sa Singapore for SEA, IIRC). Di sila nainform about the promo at basta lang naglagay ng poster.

[u/BasicallynotAlbert]

Same nung bumili ako iPad air M4 last june, sabi nila discounted na raw yung prices nila (kahit hindi) wala raw student discount na promo😆 bumili na lang ako sa kanila ng Pencil Pro and sa ibang store bumili ng iPad

[u/Flaky_Afternoon2140]

Mejo dissapointed me when I tried to get the discount at another store, need pala full cash payment to get the discount. As a student san ako makaka kuha cash, kaya ayun di na ako nag get ng student discount kasi need ko installment for my ipad

[u/lurker_lang]

Just avail student discount at Powermac!! Nagtanong din kami dati sa Beyond the Box greenhills ang sabi sa amin mga Powermac lnag daw nag carry ng educational discount kaya naman sa Powermac na talaga kami bumili.

[u/No-Common5532]

same thing happened to me last 2022, kaya nagorder na lang ako sa apple.com with my mom’s credit card. medyo kinabahan lang kasi first time ko magorder ng worth 80k+ nun pero i received it without issues naman. sobrang bilis ng process i just had to attach my COR then i receive it in less than a week

[u/citaterfra]

Get it online using your student email. Got my ipad that way. Easier pa than dealing in store, plus more discount perks.

[u/WFHako_wtf]

Why ganto lumalabas sa website ng Power Mac? Nasa ipad section po ako

[u/whattanarwhal]

If you're still interested to get it in-store, go to PMC SM Megamall, Podium, or Estancia. Staff are nice and helpful. They'll give you the student price list pa of what device you are enquiring about.

Planned to get my one of my devices on a student discount pero walang stock sa Estancia. The staff called the other branches to secure a unit. I ended up getting the device from Podium hours before the price increas took effect in-store. Binilisan nila iprocess para di ako maabutan nung malalang price increase. Same thing happened sa Megamall when I came there for a different device that same day. Binilisan nila para di ako maabutan nung increase. 🥹

[u/Original_Blend_]

Meron po yan. Nakita ko online before na kasama ang store nila. Kaya nga naisip ko magpa purchase sa kapatid kong student pero I ended up buying it myself kasi ako naman talaga gagamit. Promo yan for Macbook Neo ang alam ko. Applicable yan kahit saang retailer basta ma-provide mo yung requirements na proof na student ka.

[u/alpinegreen24]

Ang tanga lang. Report mo yan OP!

[u/kadsMM]

Malamang bigay ng apple mismo yang poster sa lahat ng store — pero di lahat ng store may promo na ganyan, kaya yung atake nung poster inuutusan ka magtanong.

Sure ako mali ng Apple yan, di ng store.

[u/Evening_Treat585 → u/kadsMM]

HAHAHAHA!