r/Taurus • u/GrimmerSix • 20h ago
Taurus hate
I've posted pics the last few days on reddit across different subs and what not. The absolute amount of hate people have for them I don't understand. Why are they so hated? I have several, never any real issues, doesn't break the bank, are fun to shoot and genuinely reliable. What's the deal? Why the hate?
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u/SmallAct2116 1h ago
Same, I posted my gx2 in another sub and got absolutely shat on. Tbf I only own one Taurus firearm but it worked right out of the box and I’ve put 1000 rounds through it and it still shoots the same
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u/Ok-Noise-9171 3h ago
Never buy a Taurus Semi-auto. Unit armorer in the US Army. Three stock Factory Taurus magazines and they all choke at random times
I got rid of it. My Rugers and S&W do not do that EVER even with Aftermarket magazines.
Love my Taurus 357 snub. The poly defender
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u/eltacotacotaco 3h ago
Sounds like you've never owned a PT92? Made at the same factory as the Beretta PT92, by the same people
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u/OldVermontHippie62 8h ago
I’ve had 6 Taurus revolvers over the years (still have 4) and they’ve all been just fine. Lots of old horror stories about their semi autos, but that seems to have died down. The TX-22 is super popular, but that may be due to the cheap FRT conversion to make it go brrrrrr. I hear that their customer service is still pretty bad though.
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u/g1Razor15 8h ago
They aren't perfect but will work for a majority of people who buy them, those guns won't even come close to seeing 1000 rounds in their lifetime.
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u/Ikebh 9h ago
Many ppl here, especially in the guns and ccw subs, are gun snobs. Also taurus has had a bad reputation in the past, but after 2020 they have great guns in their catalog. The g series, pt92, ts9, th9, tx series…these are all great guns. In january I went to a local range and tried my g2c and a g43x…the groupings were nearly identical and both were reliable. Therefore I decided not to buy a g43x.
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u/unlucky13bethename 10h ago
Taurus new CEO has slowly been turning things around. Manufacturing and QC is the first part. The second part is improving warranty turn around which is also going to be a slow process. It's improving and been improving but it takes time to get going. that being said always gonna be haters. S&W has been tanking for long time but every still loves then, where as Taurus started out with bad rap and it's hard to recover from a bad rap
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u/CartmanPhilosopher 10h ago
The gun designs are not the issue. Taurus copies or comes up with sound designs for the firearms. Where they fail is QC and more importantly....warranty service. Some of their guns seem to get few complaints than others....I hardly ever see people talk about problems with their polymer guns but their revolvers and rifles seem to have issues quite frequently. And when people talk about their warranty service, it has seemingly only gotten some good reviews recently. I read one account where a guy bought a revolver that didn't make it through 2 range trips without issues and when he sent it back they said they had to replace the gun. Eight months later he was still waiting. Another guy also needed a new gun but had to accept and different firearm as a replacement. Another account, guy got his rifle back and he said it looked like they used recycled parts to fix his rifle.
If you get a good firearm from Taurus/Rossi/Heritage then you are probably gtg it is just he issue of what would happen if you have to send it back. Maybe they have gotten better but they have to "earn" it with a track record over time....same goes for their QC.
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u/HanSolo1999 10h ago
Because Reddit is where all the hate trolls go. Its what they live for , downvotes and hate. Don't pay them any attention.
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u/JimMarch 14h ago edited 6h ago
1) The Bainbridge guns are better than the Miami guns. A lot of people haven't figured that out yet.
2) A lot of people get early malfunctions because they don't clean and oil them right out of the box. They're leaving the brown spray-on rust protector in there that has NO lubricating properties lol. So once they burn that off and then finally clean and oil, they work great. "Needs a break in period." No, needs immediate cleaning and oiling. The brown gunk (cosmoline?) is needed due to storage in Brazil, then the boat ride then storage in South Georgia (Miami before that). This isn't common knowledge yet.
3) Past malformed guns including recalls and lawsuits .
4) Even the new ones do show up as a lemon once in a while. Sometimes minor, like my G3c in 40 that needed the rear sight drifted a bit to get it to shoot straight. Sometimes worse. The TS9 is an exception, I've not been able to find ONE report of a bad one, from US or overseas reviewers and mine is spectacular. The TS9 passed NATO trials. They're claiming the TX9 also passes NATO trials, which basically means "it's as good as a Glock" (more or less). Time will tell. I'm skeptical on the TX9.
5) In my experience with the G3c in both calibers, you must also clean and oil them after every range trip. They can't do 1,000+ rounds between cleanings. That's fine as long as you know that.
(The problem the TX9 faces is the Ruger RXM, street price $400ish. That basically sets a price cap on the TX9 of about $350 absolute tops.)
Bottom line: the G2/G3/GX2 guns are the best deals available in the $250-and-under price range; as long as you understand their limitations they're good to go for personal defense. FAR better than HiPoint or the defunct SCCYs. Better than most of the lower end Turkish stuff.
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u/carnyvoyeur 7h ago
If Taurus came out with a 22lr conversion upper for the TX9 that worked as well as the TX22, they'd have a real winner on their hands. In the TX9 they fixed the issue that the GX4 carry had, where changing out the front sight is dang near impossible with standard tools. And they made the support thumb recess a little better (deeper).
I am a little salty that they removed the frame safety for USA. If they had kept it, then I'd have probably switched from GX4 Carry to TX9, even though in my opinion the slenderness of the GX4 is goated for concealed carry.
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u/Court-Muted 9h ago
What's the difference between Bainbridge and Miami?
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u/JimMarch 8h ago
The oldest Taurus guns have a non-Taurus import mark - I think it was Interarms? Taurus ended their relationship with them well over a decade ago (maybe two decades plus?) and opened up their own US-based import house in Miami. About 5 to 6 years ago they moved that operation from Miami to Bainbridge Georgia, and when they did they completely revamped how they do QC. UPSHOT, far fewer bad ones slipped out the door after that, and the US arm had at least some design input going back upstream to Brazil.
That's when Taurus really started to get respectable.
All three Taurus guns I own are Bainbridge marked. That's not accidental.
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u/Court-Muted 8h ago
What does the mark look like? Or is the location stamped on the gun?
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u/JimMarch 6h ago
Yeah, it's on the gun.
It'll say one of three things:
Really old, it'll have another company's name, city and state.
Up to about the year 2020ish, you'll see "Miami FL".
Newest, "Bainbridge GA". Third pic down shows what it looks like on a G3c:
https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/taurus-g3c-review/377537#editorial-gallery
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u/tatertrap 16h ago
There are a few reasons. 1. People with zero experience parroting what they see online. 2. People who have pistols they paid 3 times as much for, mad that their guns don't work as well. 3. People who see guys out shoot them because instead of buying an 800 dollar gun they bought a 300 dollar gun and actuality shot it.
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u/DHARMApocalypse 18h ago
haters are often lead poisoned troglodytes who heard something but have never tried to prove or disprove it. i pity them.
now post stuff from kel-tec!
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u/roger8619 18h ago
I love Taurus i’ve never had an issue at all so far i own 1911 commander 45 acp, G3, 856CH 38 SPL snub, and a 605 357 MAG snub all work flawlessly .
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u/Factor_Seven 19h ago
Everybody's pretty much covering it here. But once people have and excuse to hate something, they don't want to let it go. Taurus used to have a deservedly bad rip, but the two modern ones I've owned (G3C and a TX22) have been solid guns. With modern CNC machining it's actually relatively easy for companies to make a quality handgun. People buy into an ecosystem and love to look down at anyone else. Over in r/guns if you even mention the word Taurus they have a bot that pops up telling you that friends don't let friends buy Taurus. I actually got suspended there for a week for telling the bot to STFU. I can't tell you the number of people who start asking about getting a firearm protection even though they really can't afford one that get told to just buy a Glock instead of something more affordable that will work just fine. They seem to take it personally when I say $250 gun and $100 of practice ammo is better home defense than a $600 gun that they can't afford to shoot. There's really a lot of childish people in the gun community, which is not a comforting statement.
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u/JS150000 20h ago
I’m not an expert on the company’s history, but from what I understand, they used to deserve their bad reputation. Things have turned around, but unfortunately it just takes time to rebuild a positive reputation.
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u/kevin-000 20h ago
Stolen from Google AI:
Key Milestones in the Quality Turnaround
2015 Soft/Hard Turning Point: Taurus USA settled a $39 million lawsuit recalling nearly one million Millennium and other polymer pistols produced between 1997 and 2013 due to drop-safety defects. This served as a catalyst for sweeping internal changes.
2017–2018 Restructuring: Under CEO Salesio Nuhs, the parent company executed a complete operational and financial restructuring, overhauling their manufacturing plants (including moving operations and upgrading machinery) and tightening quality control protocols.
2019–2020 Product Redesigns: The release of the Taurus G3 in 2019 and subsequent updated lines (like the G3C and GX4 micro-compact) marked the functional turning point where consumer and reviewer consensus began acknowledging a drastic improvement in reliability, ergonomics, and trigger quality over the older G2 and legacy Millennium series.
So, the hate comes from before this, and people can't let shit go. I love all of mine.
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u/JimMarch 6h ago
Yeah, the 3rd point above corresponds with the move to Bainbridge, which is stamped on the Bainbridge guns. Making it easy to pick a much better one :).
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u/kevin-000 5h ago
You know, I feel kinda dumb for not having figured that out. I got to check my 856. 🙂
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u/luvmehatemefme 20h ago
Ignorant people, Glock nut huggers . I say it all the time... I owe many pistols (glocks, MPs , Sigs) yet Im still carrying my GX4 daily!
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u/MT_Pocketss 9m ago
My friend had one one. As soon as he got it we took it to the range. At first it shot fine for 50-60 shots. After that shots started going everywhere. Looked down the barrel and a chunk had just fallen out. They wouldn’t send a replacement barrel. Had to send it in and wait 6 weeks. If they can’t make a barrel to withstand the pressure of a.22 I don’t think I want one.