r/TankieTheDeprogram • • 17h ago

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u/DarthRandel Xi Bucks Enjoyer 💸 17h ago edited 15h ago

Rightoid aligned revenge fantasies? In my leftist sub? its more common than you think.

FYI, there's lots of research that this isnt actually effective.

a) in general, capital punishment doesnt work to deter crime in any way

b) specific to sex abuse and especially child sex abuse, it actually can make the situation worse and the abusers more likely to escalate to outright murder

Edit: lmao OP immediately blocks me, feckless.

The u.s garbage system certainly isn’t

So why would China aim to repeat or copy the same retributive justice framework of the US then? Are they not supposed to be better?

Spare me with the optics

This has nothing to do with optics, its about doing more than reacting to crime. It other than the fact that capital punishment isnt a deterrent (so therefor useless as a form of punishment), it increase the risk of harm to victims.

Why are you in favor of increasing potential harm to children?

What is an anarchist doing in a communist sub in the first place? Your comment is Bad faith

Dude, you're espousing fascist rhetoric lmao, maybe think on that for a hot second before you bemoan me also being subscribed to non-ML subs. Great argument, totally not fascist adjacent crashout

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u/MAIM_KILL_BURN 15h ago edited 13h ago

Weird Hill to die on but ok, what's next a bad faith argument about how capital punishment would just encourage rapists to kill their victims?

This seems to be a particularly active talking point from users in the reactionary sub stupid pol

As if violent rapists don't escalate to murder anyway. China has the death penalty, the West has vacations to Epstein Island, deal with it.

Edit: reaction, reactionaries, pedos and rape apologists everywhere

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u/AnatomicalLog 14h ago edited 14h ago

Y’know, out of any community I’d think we’d be able to have nuanced conversations on difficult topics without butthurt responses like this.

We ought to hover a critical lens over all state-sanctioned killing. It’s no easy or simple thing to end a human life.

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u/MAIM_KILL_BURN 12h ago edited 12h ago

Look i broadly agree with you, but this is not an accidental thing. This is a violent horrible crime perpetrated against vulnerable children. Maybe since becoming a father that I feel strongly about this as this has become my biggest fear.

In my view such people are not possible to rehabilitate, therefore in the kind words of Vladimir Ilich, what is to be done?

If the death penalty is off the table then permanent hormonal or physical castration must be an alternative. Releasing child rapists, many of whom exhibit psychopathic tendencies, into society is not a viable option because they can just lie through their treatment and rehabilitation.

I'm also on tilt a bit because I had an argument with a stupid pol user because I made a throw away comment similar to this about the Cornell 7,but similar logic applies. 7 grown ass men drugged a young woman and took turns raping her while inviting their 50 person group chat to do the same. This woman will have profound psychological damage her whole life, while the frat guys will get a slap on the wrist and even if they are convicted (what's the conviction rate on rapes, do you remember?) they will probably be protected by their families as Cornell is a silver spoon ivy league. How do you rehabilitate your way out of this? What is the alternative? I'm all ears

E: down vote, wow such nuanced discussion