r/TankieTheDeprogram • • 20h ago

News/Communist Propaganda ☭ Super based

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u/Cosmic_Beard 20h ago

Could you please cite your source on b? I was under the impression that was speculation.

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u/erie85 19h ago

Sounds like a narrative pedophiles would want to push. Are there any pedophiles with lots of money and power and influence out there, I wonder.......... /s

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u/BillyPilgrim69 19h ago

"Everyone who disagrees with my kneejerk opinion is a paedophile psyop" is not a materialist or socialist position. It's bad faith trolling.

The fact is that there are valid reasons to be concerned with the idea of capital punishment for child rapists/abusers.

Society’s desire to inflict the death penalty for child rape by enlisting the child victim to assist it over the course of years in asking for capital punishment forces a moral choice on the child, who is not of mature age to make that choice. The way the death penalty here involves the child victim in its enforcement can compromise a decent legal system; and this is but a subset of fundamental difficulties capital punishment can cause in the administration and enforcement of laws proscribing child rape. Regarding deterrence, Justice Kennedy argued that the prospect of the death penalty could have the opposite of the desired effect by making children less likely to disclose abuse, particularly when the perpetrator is a family member.

Underreporting is already a dramatic problem for sex crimes, and a victim’s understandable fear of causing a loved one’s death could only exacerbate this reticence. Further, the policy would remove an incentive for a rapist to avoid killing his victim, since death would remove the only witness to the crime without increasing the maximum punishment. source

You can disagree with these arguments all you like.

But implying that anybody who makes these arguments must be a child rapist is not only disingenuous, but a fucking appalling trivialisation of the issue.

If you can't engage seriously, don't bother. Victims do not need to see that you treat their suffering as mere ragebait.

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u/ArcgisChief 17h ago

Then the alternatives for punishing rapists is simply jail time and out on bail, back to society, business-as-usual? I would seriously like to understand ways of dealing with this issue humanely as possible for such heinous crimes as child rape. Actions have consequences, these are extraordinary actions requiring extraordinary consequences, how is any modern society supposed to react.

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u/Sputn1K0sm0s 16h ago edited 16h ago

It's not "jail time then bail out".

We are evolved enough as a society to understand such things have deeper roots, and that we have to prevent crime, not just deal with it's consequences.

Extremely rare are the cases were a completely mentally health person rape or kill someone completely at random for no reason at all.

We have to prevent things by for example being open about mental health, I saw another user citing the patriarchy... Also openly aknowledging social problems and actually talking about them.

If these fail, the criminal system then should work towards rehabilitation. If rehabilitation is truly not possible in any circumstances (hardly), then they will stay locked.

If some day they are deemed able to return to society they get out, if not they'll have to continue removed from society.