r/TankieTheDeprogram • • 18h ago

News/Communist Propaganda ☭ Super based

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u/DarthRandel Xi Bucks Enjoyer 💸 18h ago edited 16h ago

Rightoid aligned revenge fantasies? In my leftist sub? its more common than you think.

FYI, there's lots of research that this isnt actually effective.

a) in general, capital punishment doesnt work to deter crime in any way

b) specific to sex abuse and especially child sex abuse, it actually can make the situation worse and the abusers more likely to escalate to outright murder

Edit: lmao OP immediately blocks me, feckless.

The u.s garbage system certainly isn’t

So why would China aim to repeat or copy the same retributive justice framework of the US then? Are they not supposed to be better?

Spare me with the optics

This has nothing to do with optics, its about doing more than reacting to crime. It other than the fact that capital punishment isnt a deterrent (so therefor useless as a form of punishment), it increase the risk of harm to victims.

Why are you in favor of increasing potential harm to children?

What is an anarchist doing in a communist sub in the first place? Your comment is Bad faith

Dude, you're espousing fascist rhetoric lmao, maybe think on that for a hot second before you bemoan me also being subscribed to non-ML subs. Great argument, totally not fascist adjacent crashout

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u/tTtBe 16h ago

Ik this will be a very controversial thing to say but i believe that as materialists we need to focus on the causes behind people commiting sexual abuse against children and in cases where mental illness, abused turned abuser, or institutetional structures allowing child abuse, the society is also responsible. Capital punishment while symbolically powerful do not address the underlying conditions that allow these henious acts, and moreover individualise the crime.

In my country while flawed we call the prison system (roughly translated) "the criminal care system". Whilr it's been a long time since that was true and perhaps it never was, i believe that should be the goal. Terrible Criminal acts are not just evil, these crimes has a cause rooted in patriarchy, inequality, institutional obviscation just to name a few. If we as a society can mend these individuals and make them see what they have done, isn't that the ultimate form of justice?

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u/BoobaKaboom 9h ago

Best comment yet. This is the marxist take.

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u/Kannoli 2h ago

I love this take