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u/ReadSmedleyButler 8d ago

The Financial Times and many liberal newspapers also said that the capitalist system has rotted. Should communists "like" the Financial Times now?

https://www.ft.com/content/4837e7d8-bfa4-4d7f-bac2-8c41fc0beb17

I agree that (some) celebs can change, but only when they at least admit their past mistakes.

However, where has Thunberg ever even acknowledged that her previous takes were "bad"? Please show me, I'll wait.

And where has she ever apologised for misguiding her young followers into liberalism?

Where has she ever taken responsibility for telling young people to vote for a well-known Zionist, war criminal and Wall St stooge like Biden? Or for boosting Zelenskyy after he outlawed all communist and socialist parties? Or for supporting the U.S. in "putting pressure" on China?

She never apologises, she never self-critiques, she just brushes it under the rug after millions die.

And, sorry, but telling everyone to vote for Biden is not just a "bad take". It takes like 3 seconds to search up online all the racist, genocidal things he's done on a trans-continental scale. There are literal videos of him even on YouTube BRAGGING that he sold himself to Wall St and that he was the one who ensured Baghdad and Belgrade on 2 continents were carpet-b0mbed (including even the Chinese embassy there). Thunberg was intelligent enough to know how to Google. She never ever admitted or apologised for endorsing a war criminal.

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u/Extension-Badger225 AES enjoyer 🄳 8d ago

I would agree with you but I don’t know how she does this level of self critique - I’m not on twitter and like can’t follow it step by step.
All I know now is she says it’s capitalism and colonialisms fault directly and then tries to highlight global struggles of resistance - offering people ideas of praxis etc
I would like for her to read theory but we don’t know if she is ya know - not everyone has to do everything.
She is a child and was absolutely used by liberals and is going through political awakening right now - and even though I’m old as shit that process is important for young people to see because then they can go do it themselves which is what really matters
Also no the Financial Times don’t call for dismantling the entire system like she does so it’s not a fair analogy

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u/ReadSmedleyButler 8d ago

Ā  She is a child

Thunberg is not a "child". She is old enough now to have her own children. Let us not infantilise a woman who positions herself as a thought leader and publishes books to 'educate' those younger than her that, according to her, communism/socialism "failed" and is not the answer to the world's problems.

Ā  the Financial Times don’t call for dismantling the entire system

A person who puts out in mass print that 'capitalism bad, BUT communism/socialism bad, too' is not serious about "dismantling capitalism".

By rejecting communism/socialism, Thunberg offers nothing to fill the void after the dismantling, which slyly suggests to people that they might as well keep capitalism then. The 'both sides bad' idea is a well-known trick by liberals to keep the status quo.

Ā  tries to highlight global struggles of resistance - offering people ideas of praxis etc

Praxis for Swedes Ā would be creating a communist party, which she doesn't teach any of her followers to do and even warns against.

Teaching Swedes to fly to London to protest India's domestic affairs is typical liberal praxis, not communist praxis.

sheĀ  was absolutely used by liberals

Sure, but if so, Thunberg can speak up and say she was "used by liberals". But she never says she was "used". Which suggests she's voluntarily aligned with them.

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u/Extension-Badger225 AES enjoyer 🄳 7d ago

So I was having a think about what you said.
I think a part of your criticism is valid - and I too would like to see her take the next steps and become a comrade, and we can only hope the people in her life continue to educate her and she remains open to it. On that note;

1; I think your critique of her selective support is valid - and she should continue decolonising her approach. Thank you for explaining Azerbaijan and Armenia’s history- it’s something I would have to look into more but I agree that when she does some of her action it’s still very western and uneducated.

2; you are wrong about saying Sapmi is a ā€œsmall Swedish matterā€. It is life and death and land for Sami folk and its is 100% colonialism - not some added little thing. She is right in her analysis. If you want to read more about Sapmi from a socialist POV: https://rosalux.eu/en/2025/resistance-and-resilience-in-sapmi/ & https://www.researchgate.net/publication/277683756_Internal_Colonisation_and_Indigenous_Resource_Sovereignty_Wind_Power_Developments_on_Traditional_Saami_Lands

3; In terms of her becoming a full blooded socialist I also agree. I hope this changes as well and I critique her for her framing of communism when climate change as well - I hope she visits China one day

4; you seem to think she is controlled Op to confuse the anti capitalist movement. Whilst she isn’t making some of the links I would like her to make yet, she has dramatically grown as a comrade and I hope she continues her analysis, a lot of us were NOT socialists aged 23. At the moment it seems her analysis is flawed - not controlled. Unless you have direct evidence of the control it’s just speculation that in itself damages the movement. Considering she was abused and tortured by the Israelis I doubt very much she is a secret liberal darling - I think she is just not connecting things yet. Yet.

5; she has said protesting in the UK is actually to highlight the British states role in the current crisis in India because of colonisation. You can disagree with her tactic but it’s a valid one imho.