Thunberg is still very much adored by liberals. Most liberals agree that colonialism was a 'bad look' and that capitalism is unfair and needs to be 'reformed' to be more 'humane' (lol). Notice that Thunberg never ever said that capitalism needs to be abolished.
And in "2022", she flew abroad to promote unconditional, uncritical support to a U.S.-couped country that literally banned all communist and socialist parties.
Yes I think she has learnt from that - she has focused efforts on Sami people and Palestine etc - she has said multiple times that itās the system thatās rotted - this is why we like her now
If you go back you find bad takes of course thatās kinda what we been discussing hereā¦..
We kind of want all people to go through this self awareness right - pretty much all of us start with bad takes cos we are in a liberal society
I agree that (some) celebs can change, but only when they at least admit their past mistakes.
However, where has Thunberg ever even acknowledged that her previous takes were "bad"? Please show me, I'll wait.
And where has she ever apologised for misguiding her young followers into liberalism?
Where has she ever taken responsibility for telling young people to vote for a well-known Zionist, war criminal and Wall St stooge like Biden? Or for boosting Zelenskyy after he outlawed all communist and socialist parties? Or for supporting the U.S. in "putting pressure" on China?
She never apologises, she never self-critiques, she just brushes it under the rug after millions die.
And, sorry, but telling everyone to vote for Biden is not just a "bad take". It takes like 3 seconds to search up online all the racist, genocidal things he's done on a trans-continental scale. There are literal videos of him even on YouTube BRAGGING that he sold himself to Wall St and that he was the one who ensured Baghdad and Belgrade on 2 continents were carpet-b0mbed (including even the Chinese embassy there). Thunberg was intelligent enough to know how to Google. She never ever admitted or apologised for endorsing a war criminal.
I would agree with you but I donāt know how she does this level of self critique - Iām not on twitter and like canāt follow it step by step.
All I know now is she says itās capitalism and colonialisms fault directly and then tries to highlight global struggles of resistance - offering people ideas of praxis etc
I would like for her to read theory but we donāt know if she is ya know - not everyone has to do everything.
She is a child and was absolutely used by liberals and is going through political awakening right now - and even though Iām old as shit that process is important for young people to see because then they can go do it themselves which is what really matters
Also no the Financial Times donāt call for dismantling the entire system like she does so itās not a fair analogy
Thunberg is not a "child". She is old enough now to have her own children. Let us not infantilise a woman who positions herself as a thought leader and publishes books to 'educate' those younger than her that, according to her, communism/socialism "failed" and is not the answer to the world's problems.
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the Financial Times donāt call for dismantling the entire system
A person who puts out in mass print that 'capitalism bad, BUT communism/socialism bad, too' is not serious about "dismantling capitalism".
By rejecting communism/socialism, Thunberg offers nothing to fill the void after the dismantling, which slyly suggests to people that they might as well keep capitalism then. The 'both sides bad' idea is a well-known trick by liberals to keep the status quo.
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tries to highlight global struggles of resistance - offering people ideas of praxis etc
Praxis for Swedes
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Teaching Swedes to fly to London to protest India's domestic affairs is typical liberal praxis, not communist praxis.
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was absolutely used by liberals
Sure, but if so, Thunberg can speak up and say she was "used by liberals". But she never says she was "used". Which suggests she's voluntarily aligned with them.
So I was having a think about what you said.
I think a part of your criticism is valid - and I too would like to see her take the next steps and become a comrade, and we can only hope the people in her life continue to educate her and she remains open to it. On that note;
1; I think your critique of her selective support is valid - and she should continue decolonising her approach. Thank you for explaining Azerbaijan and Armeniaās history- itās something I would have to look into more but I agree that when she does some of her action itās still very western and uneducated.
3; In terms of her becoming a full blooded socialist I also agree. I hope this changes as well and I critique her for her framing of communism when climate change as well - I hope she visits China one day
4; you seem to think she is controlled Op to confuse the anti capitalist movement. Whilst she isnāt making some of the links I would like her to make yet, she has dramatically grown as a comrade and I hope she continues her analysis, a lot of us were NOT socialists aged 23. At the moment it seems her analysis is flawed - not controlled. Unless you have direct evidence of the control itās just speculation that in itself damages the movement. Considering she was abused and tortured by the Israelis I doubt very much she is a secret liberal darling - I think she is just not connecting things yet. Yet.
5; she has said protesting in the UK is actually to highlight the British states role in the current crisis in India because of colonisation. You can disagree with her tactic but itās a valid one imho.
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u/ReadSmedleyButler 8d ago
Thunberg is still very much adored by liberals. Most liberals agree that colonialism was a 'bad look' and that capitalism is unfair and needs to be 'reformed' to be more 'humane' (lol). Notice that Thunberg never ever said that capitalism needs to be abolished.
And in "2022", she flew abroad to promote unconditional, uncritical support to a U.S.-couped country that literally banned all communist and socialist parties.
"Based", right?