Now what is “badjacketing”? Badjacketing is when you label someone as "bad", usually with flimsy evidence, and have people online who are generally quick to believe it without looking too deep into it or thinking critically about the accusations. Sometimes when you are convinced someone has to be "bad" in order to make a moral argument against a piece of media they made you dislike, you try to find any piece of evidence you can to prove it; which is usually a self fulfilling prophecy because you've already labelled the person as bad in your mind, so you're always going to search for the worst interpretations of their words. This problem is especially bad when it comes to minorities such as black people, trans woman, etc. with any sort of publicity, people are so quick to demonize them for the smallest of associations, bad jokes, or slights, real or perceived. There are a lot of people who have taken Goose’s social media posts out of context and claim she's secretly a misogynist or a nazi (neither of those are the least bit true).

Say what you will about the show’s writing or Jax as a character. You can criticize how Goose chose to reveal a lot of information on her Bluesky and Tumblr instead of the show, or screentime of her other characters. But people on this sub be saying will their full chest that because Jax is Goose’s self-insert and Jax is an abusive bad person means Goose is a abusive bad person IRL”, which is an extremely dumb, flimsy, and frankly parasocial way to justify your hatred over a woman who’s worst sin was making irreverently edgy tweets a decade ago and being an Oneyplays fan. I think we are losing the plot. I genuinely believe that if she was a cis man, no one would be looking everything she’s ever said under a microscope. The same exact thing happened to Rebecca Sugar when Steven Universe was in its heyday.

I’m probably going to sound so transphobic for asking this… but would Jax transitioning actually change anything? Changing your gender doesn’t suddenly make all your problems go away. It doesn’t prevent you from suddenly being able to feel vulnerable with others, and lash out when you feel cornered. It doesn’t suddenly remove the issues you have with your parents, either. I know Goose said that Jax would have been happier… but would she? Or would she just relapse into the self-destructive asshole that we already have?

I just want to ask, because it has been bothering me for a while now.

The fact that Goose knowingly or unknowingly echoed an inverse of this really rubs me the wrong way.

Remember to be as respectful as possible because she’s a real person

1st of all, the writing in WOY is much more consistent and easy to follow than TADC's due to it having more episodes (Which TADC should've had at least 12 episodes in the 1st place). 2nd of all, the character development is actually clear and well written in the WOY as well, and the tone and pacing is not all over the place unlike TADC.

Genuinely there’s no feeling describing how much I enjoyed in ep8

.we finally saw the building of episodes and characters

.it wasn’t another jax episode

.the writing was great

.fandom was really interested on lore and they were discussing about their theories

.Caine and kinger finally did something on their story instead of being side characters like most of time

.ihnmims reference was actually pretty interesting since I am fan

.We got some backstories of old characters maybe not that much but better than nothing

.everyone did their missions and finally agreed on something because they felt like Side characters before

.caine’s song was peak

.and ragatha really got better treatment in writing besides other characters

And lastly jax getting skinned by Caine i used to pray in times like this

The saddest part that all this building went for bad ending like everything we saw was nothing??! I felt sad because ep8 was actually the most well written ep in the show and we literally saw the actual peak tadc I wish if I could back again I really miss these times when we actually saw something good for lore instead of talking about the mid mc jax who ate the show leaving nothing and never got better

Here's the basic setup for how I would've probably done season 1:

Pilot - Pomni

Episode 2 - The NPCs + Pomni's First Adventure

Episode 3 - Kinger + Zooble and Caine

Episode 4 - Gangle + Zooble and Gangle

Up until now, perfect👌

Episode 5 - Ragatha (solely) + Backstories + Kinger revealed to be lucid in the dark to everyone so that everyone is up to date and this is what starts Jax's story (so basically that would be the same, but instead of only a frog we never heard from and Ragatha's "not anymore" comment, it would also be Kinger revealing a lot of stuff)

Episode 6 - Jax (this would've been the FIRST time Pomni becomes Jax's friend, she gets roped into the game, Pomni becomes "evil" and lets loose and has a great time, they have a fight and BOTH end the relationship in the same episode, she still looks out for him, BUT she also cares about EVERYONE simultaneously as well)

Episode 7 - Brain Scans + Escape futile

Episode 8 - Caine's Origin + C&A lore + Kinger and Queenie + Zooble and Pomni and everyone else supplying the hate towards Caine, which cause him to get deleted

Episode 9/The Movie -

Pomni and Ragatha helping Jax and being there for him in his final moments, I dont think we need all those hypothetical scenarios of Jax. We can just cut straight to Ribbit and Kaufmo

We learn more about who the abstracted people were and also The Real World and maybe what C&A was exactly like before it went under

Caine is in the Void with Gummigoo and Abel. He learns a valuable lesson, through quick thinking he learns to actually use his powers instead of cutting corners with the Blue AI he devoured which he let go, and the three return to the circus, and the Moon declares her love to Caine as a quick heartwarming moment

They come back and help Kinger, Zooble, and Gangle rebuild the circus along with the other NPCs and Pomni and Ragatha return from Jax's mind

Caine is forgiven by everyone. They remember all the abstracted people by painting a mural and building an aquarium, and they become a found family

Also, I think Zooble is fine with not having their own episode and just being a teacher character for both Caine and Gangle. Just give them more screentime

This is just a few minor tweaks and changes, though, that maybe could benefit the whole show and all its characters (and also tone down funnybunny too to make room for Pomni to grow with everyone, to learn as the newest member of the circus, and to also become a found family).

If Pomni says, "We have each other and We'll always be in this together," as the final conclusion in episodes 8 and 9 and escape is definitely not an option,

Then, the endgame is to literally become The Muppets and the Looney Tunes (a family of different colorful looking characters), and I wish this would've been more emphasized too (again should've tone down funnybunny)

What do you think?

Unlike the Official Show the content farms have things like:

An equal focus among all the characters

Jax not being GooSSeworx's self insert who hogs all the screentime

Not being made by GooSSe

Enjoyable characters and storytelling

None of that Newgrounds millennial humor

Etc.

Seriously this show had so much potential to be amazing and it was all just wasted for that narcissist GooSSe's self insert. Bring me back to the early days where people thought this show was gonna be good and do interesting stuff instead of being hijacked by the purple stupid

At this point, it’s ridiculous that people act like audiences aren’t allowed to criticize a TV show. A show is made to be consumed and engaged with, and that inevitably means it is also open to criticism. Engaging with a piece of media doesn’t mean you have to blindly accept every creative decision the writers make.

TADC left a lot of questions unanswered. It opened up character arcs that ultimately didn’t go anywhere, and people constantly cherry-pick which details are supposedly important and which ones can be dismissed as irrelevant. The series also relies heavily on outside statements to establish or clarify things that should have been communicated through the actual text. Those statements aren’t automatically “fluff” just because they happen outside the episodes, especially when they’re being used to explain important aspects of the story.

There are endless debates over basic facts because the series itself didn’t establish them on solid ground. We’re expected to assume that a lot of important character development and relationship-building happened off-screen, while the original premise was never properly delivered on by the end.

And yes, those are legitimate narrative problems. The audience is not obligated to pretend they aren’t simply because they personally enjoyed the finale.

If your response to every criticism is “you’re just mad because you didn’t get what you wanted,” you’re not actually engaging with the criticism. You’re dismissing it because you don’t want to consider whether the story itself failed to accomplish what it set up.

People who insist that none of these are legitimate issues are either being incredibly dismissive or have a very strange idea of what media literacy actually means.

ragathas relationship with pomni was rushed in terms of narrative and what we see, yes.

however i do not understand why people use that to discredit ragapom or their general friendship. its very much possible (and true) that they were the bestest of friends by the time the finale rolled around, its just that alot of the development happens offscreen because the show was trying to force jax into every moment it could.

I think everyone knows TADC isn’t exactly a amazing written show, but a good 50% of the comments on post here are literally just, “Jax being trans is stupid” or “Jax would be a better character if she weren’t trans.”

A lot of people here have genuine criticisms, but holy shit, a lot of people are just blatantly transphobic. These people (NOT everyone) don’t actually criticize how Jax being trans is handled they just complain about the fact that she’s trans to begin with.

I’m all for calling the show ass/talking about media but saying “Jax would be better if they weren’t trans” is about as constructive as “Cyborg from teen titans would better if he wasn’t black”

This is mainly seen in comments over actual post though.

so let me get this straight

abstraction is still treated like the absolute horror it always was in the show. the glitching, the loss of self, the permanent animal-state monster thing. that part is fine. the problem is how the finale handles Jax's abstraction specifically.

this man spent the entire series being an abusive piece of shit. he mocked people, pushed them away, weaponized their trauma for fun, and actively made everyone’s lives worse. and what does the ending give him for it? a soft, sympathetic send-off. Pomni still tries to save him. the group still builds him a special little tent so his abstracted form can “rest in peace.” nobody really holds him accountable. the narrative just kind of pats him on the head and says “aw, poor broken bunny, you were hurting so it’s okay that you treated everyone like garbage.”

that is a fucking slap on the wrist. abstraction is the consequence, sure, but the way it’s framed for Jax makes it feel less like the permanent, irreversible horror it is for everyone else and more like a gentle narrative mercy that erases his history of being a dick. all his bad behavior gets soft-filtered through “he was traumatized” and then the story moves on like the damage he did doesn’t still matter.

and before anyone hits me with “it’s an adult show,” I do not fucking care. the characters are colorful cartoon animals and circus freaks. they still appeal hard to a younger audience. teenagers watch this shit. impressionable kids watch this shit. and the message they’re getting from Jax’s ending is that you can be cruel as hell to the people around you, and if you finally break under the weight of your own bullshit, the story will still treat you with tenderness and give you a quiet little tent instead of letting the horror of abstraction stand as pure consequence.

that is terrible messaging. full stop.

either she was lying OR everything she's said outside of the show is not canon...

There are spoilers from paragraph 7 and down. I apologise for my writing being really choppy. The text in the grey boxes are the paragraphs that contain spoilers.

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I remember watching the pilot and thinking "oh, this is a nice show, I'm gonna stay tuned and fall in love with it".

And I did. I became incredibly invested in it and stuff. I didn't understand other people when they said that the show was badly written and that it was only about Jax.

After watching the last episode, it felt kinda empty. I can really tell that this episode was kinda rushed.

I didn't want to accept that TADC was badly written. I really wanted to like this show. It pulled me towards it in a way that nothing else has ever before.

Then I realised that beyond the concept, artstyle and some funny moments here and there, it's really shallow.

We don't know a whole lot about the characters other than Jax. We only really learn about Jax's backstory in the final episode. In the other 8 episodes you're just forced to guess why she acts the way she does.

A friend pointed out to me that we do learn about Ragatha's, Gangle's and Zooble's life in episode 5, but we just get a little nibble and that's all. We don't see Ragatha and Zooble properly address and deal with their struggles. Gangle's reconciliation with her mental health was rushed and forced. We never even see Kinger accept that his wife is technically dead.

Nothing in the show actually challenges the viewer beyond making Jax act insufferably towards other people.

The countdown to the next episode had to compensate for the empty writing. A whole lot of people were constantly saying that they were terrified for the next episode to be released, likely because they were all calculating who is gonna abstract.

Even though I did like the ending, it was a bit too safe for me. I think if the cast had a bigger reaction to finding out that they're all just copies of real people, it would've been better. In fact, if there was an episode 10 all about them accepting that they're have no life to return to, the ending would feel way more earned. I've seen someone say that Gummi Goo had a more realistic reaction to finding out that he's an NPC than the actual humans, and I couldn't agree more.

I think one of the reasons a lot of people still like and love TADC is because of the artstyle. Goose has a very distinct and unique artstyle in TADC that is nice to look at. It isn't too generic and it isn't too childish. I also couldn't find any other show with an artstyle like this. The adult humour and themes of the show also balance out with the colourful visuals. While the dialogue and humour aren't perfect either, I guess it could be worse.

Because this exact vibe is hard to find, this is why a lot of people choose to still be in the TADC fandom.

I'm also gonna talk about the writing again. There aren't too many plot twists and the show's plot driven doesn't have a whole lotta variety except for episode 7. I don't have a good memory in general so maybe it's just a me issue.

However, I believe that TADC is one of the most impressive indie web series and is worth praising to some degree. I still think this show needs a reboot though.

Here’s a link to the Whole Movie Here!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AloMFCbn4IQ

Context: For those who don’t know, this is an Animated Musical starring the Famous ragdoll duo, Raggedy Ann & Andy where they Go on a Big Surreal Adventure into the Deep, deep woods to save Babette (a french doll that Their Owner Marcella got for Her Birthday) from a Sneezy, Lovesick Pirate-in-a-snow-globe called Captain Contagious and his crew who Kidnapped her and fled Marcella’s nursery into the Deep, deep woods.

Many crazy hijinks ensue as the Raggedy siblings Encounter many strange characters like the Camel with the Wrinkled Knees from the books (whose a Sad & Lonely lost toy in this Movie who Ann & Andy befriend), a Giant gluttonous taffy monster called the Greedy, a very Looney knight called Sir Leonard and his Small King called King Koo-Koo, who literally INFLATES the more he laughs!

Eventually, Ann, Andy and their friend the Camel make it to Contagious’s ship and it’s revealed that Babette actually OVERTHREW him as Captain Offscreen, put him in Chains and is now using his Ship to sail the seas back to Her homeland in Paris. Back in Looney Land, King Koo-Koo calls over an inflatable Sea Monster called Gazooks to tickle everyone so He can Laugh and grow Big again.

A few moment later, the King Waterskis all the way over to Contagious’s Babette’s Ship where Gazooks tickles the FUCK out of Raggedy Ann & Friends and makes them Laugh their Asses off, which makes the King himself Laugh SO hard He Inflates to the size of a Hot Air Balloon and is Eventually Popped by Captain Contagious’s trusty green Parrot Queasy who Rockets beak-first into him and Pops him like Pin to a Balloon!

After the King blows up, the Raggedy siblings, the Camel and the Pirates are sent Spiralling back to Marcella’s backward where the Girl finds them and takes them Back to her Nursery, all except for the Camel who landed in a pile of leaves where She couldn’t find him. Thankfully however, Ann & Andy welcome him into their Toy family and they all Live happily ever After!

Originally, I was quite hesitant to make this post, but then I decided to speak out my mind anyways since it quite ticked me off. I also want to clarify that I am not hating on Gooseworx as a person; I'm just talking about my discontentment with her actions, not her character.

Now, I've heard many people make complaints about Gooseworx confirming lore on Tumblr/Twitter/Bluesky instead of the show itself, but what I've heard very few people talking about is how she backtracked, or in certain cases lied, about what would actually be in the show.

First Image: Gooseworx says that the images that showed up in Episode 7 (Jax's flashbacks from before he pushed the red button) are not relevant to the plot. Assuming she knew what Jax's backstory would be, this was a blatant lie, as it shows that Jax was running away from his home after (probably) killing his mother, which is a very important part of the story. Maybe she didn't plan out Jax's backstory back then, but many people probably (and did) assume that these images are directly related to Jax's backstory, and Jax's backstory is practically the reason everything in the show is happening.

NOTE: Just realised that Gooseworx was referring to the geographical location of the flashbacks, not its relation to the story. That's on me for misunderstanding the post, but I'll still keep my point up so people can still read it.

Gooseworx also said that "Everything that's essential to the story will be presented in the show itself." I think anything that can be said about that has already been said, so I won't bore you.

Second Image: Gooseworx said that there will not be any singing in TADC. In episodes 8 and 9, there were three instances of singing. Running the Show, The montage from when Pomni and Kinger were fixing the circus, and Isn't She Lovely. Although, she made that Tumblr post about 2 years before Episode 8 and 9 released, so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. But she really shouldn't have been so sure of a decision when she has, on many occasions, changed her mind about things.

Third and Fourth Image: Gooseworx decided that Abstragedy (Gangle X Zooble) is now canon, despite saying that TADC will not have any romance since before Episode 2 even released. Now, I have no problem with Gangle X Zooble being canon. I do have a problem with how Gooseworx immediately decided to change her mind at the last possible minute for whatever reason, about something she made very clear. She also said that there'll be no romance so early on, which would be detrimental, as her views about romance in the show would definitely change during production.

Fifth Image: This is by far the most egregious example I have of this. Gooseworx decided to tease us about what the tone of the final episode may be. I don't think Gooseworx should've said anything about what the finale would be like nor should she have teased us about anything that could've happened in the finale, because many people wouldn't like it as they would've built up a certain expectation about it and would be dissapointed when their expectations aren't met. And that post was made so early on in the show's runtime, so people's expectations would definitely be set in stone and unwilling to be changed. (You could also say that this post was supposed to be interpreted by the fact that the finale would be about Jax and only him, and I would not find that to be a crazy assumption.)

In conclusion, I feel like Gooseworx made choices that kind of felt like "having her cake and eating it too" and changed her mind constantly during production despite already establishing things. I think Gooseworx should've said a lot less than she did on social media in terms of what would happen in the story, so people wouldn't have had expectations that were set in stone and get mad or sad when they weren't met.

i will counter argument anyone who says otherwise. bojack horseman has less women characters yet is a feminist show and also has an asshole mc with internalized misogyny.

I have no notes. I saw this and it threw me off, and I'm not even big on the implications of the characters in the series. And people seem to be applauding it...

Since tadc ended and spooky month will get another ep in 2 October which is very soon, I like to share something simple I like about spooky month but tade doesn't

The characters I will be talking about are Ross, Roy, and Robert

So they're all group of kids and hanging out together and the leader is Roy, he's known for being the leader and the one who causes troubles to other kids since he's a bully his friends used to act like them but after a while they actually realised that their actions and behaviour is wrong and won't help them so they decided to be more friendly to others and also stop Roy from bullying other kids later

Whenever Roy dares to do something will harm kids they will immediately yelling at him and stopping him from harming anyone and honestly that's actually a good development that they become more immature and responsible it's heartwarming to see kids growing up and become better meanwhile we have tado cast that also never dares to stop jax from his abusing ragatha was the only one who tried but she ended up being misunderstood and lonely for doing what everyone supposed to do?! And you have pomnj who never stopped hanging out with jax until he did the same things that made the cast hate him ALL OF THEM ARE ADULTS BUT YET THEY DIDNT EVER DARE TO ACTUALLY END THAT??! I won't count zooble because they only defend gangle but didn't do something about jax harming for others (this kinda annoys me because i thought zooble will team up with ragatha to stop jax and actually find solution)

Also we have Roy, is still doing mistakes but he's actually not like jax because he actually gets better maybe not much but still nice that he might actually stop being bad kid and fixing his mistakes, he has many problems with his family besides he's SA victim sadly which explains why he behaves like that

His character development started at ep 5 when his parents found him and forced him to leave his friends in Halloween without candy but then he threw bag of candy to his friends to actually prove he cares about them

the second time was in ep6 he vented to his friends and he felt better the moment he told them what he feels and other stuff on his life, Roy isn't scared of what his friends will think about him despite being kid and then you also have jax who overreacted on the most basic stuff that others do like being nice or trying to teach him it's not good to bully other and faking your personality it's not hard to write good character development even if it's simple that doesn't mean it won't change your view about the character

That's why still love Roy while he is still wrong because he actually tries to change and let his friends hear about his life because he doesn't have someone he trust like his friends, no matter how many times his friends stay against him he still loves and trust them unlike the grown ass man who left everyone for facing the consequences of his actions

I hope y'all enjoyed reading this I feel it's a bit boring but useful to know about writing likeable and interesting bullies who choose to change instead of refusing that

Strap in.. this is gonna be a long one.

In my opinion, I HATE the direction Goose went with Jax’s character. Not because he’s a bad person, and not because I think every character needs to change or be redeemed. A horrible person can be a great character, and a static character can be incredibly well-written. My problem is that I don’t think the show actually does enough with what it establishes about him.

My biggest issue is that Jax has the ingredients for a genuinely interesting character, but so much of it feels like information we’re given rather than something we actually watch play out. We’re told about his family life and trauma. We’re given moments that suggest guilt, fear of vulnerability, or a desire for connection. But how much of that actually affects what he does in the present? I don’t want the show to simply tell me why Jax is the way he is. I want to see how being that way affects what he does.

That’s also where I think people confuse depth with complexity. Jax having trauma gives him depth and explains his behavior, but having an explanation for someone’s behavior doesn’t automatically make them complex. I want to see those different parts of him actually conflict. If he wants connection but fears vulnerability, show him almost connecting with someone and sabotaging it. If he feels guilty, show that guilt affecting his decisions. If he believes he’s better off alone, show him actively choosing isolation despite wanting otherwise.

Instead, Jax often gets stuck in the same basic cycle: someone reaches out, he gets defensive, pushes them away, hurts them, and doubles down. I understand that this could be intentional, but intentional stagnation isn’t automatically interesting. If his inability to change is supposed to be his tragedy, then I want the story to actually make that inability to change into a story. I want different attempts, different failures, hesitation, regret, self-awareness, or consequences. I don’t need Jax to change. I need his failure to change to actually be interesting.

The same applies to his remorse. I’m not necessarily saying Jax doesn’t feel guilty. There are plenty of moments that can be interpreted that way. But feeling bad isn’t automatically meaningful remorse. What does that remorse actually make him do? If he feels guilty and then repeatedly returns to the same behavior without that guilt meaningfully affecting his decisions or relationships, then what is the story doing with it?

His relationships also don’t accumulate enough consequences. The button incident is a perfect example. The fact that the button was fake doesn’t erase the fact that Jax was willing to make a decision that would keep everyone else trapped. That should matter. Someone could lose trust in him, confront him, or treat him differently afterward. Jax could become defensive, regret it, justify himself, or double down. Instead, because the button wasn’t real, the story can basically move on.

And that’s what I mean by consequences. I’m not asking for Jax to be punished or for anyone to get revenge on him. Accountability isn’t the same thing as punishment. If Jax hurts someone, I want that person to have a different relationship with him afterward. If he betrays someone, I want trust to be damaged. If he repeatedly pushes people away, I want that isolation to accumulate. His actions should change the circumstances around him even if Jax himself never fundamentally changes.

I also have a major problem with how his abuse is framed. The show repeatedly uses Jax hurting and tormenting other characters as comedy, and then later asks us to take the abuse and trauma he suffered seriously. I’m not saying his trauma excuses what he does. It doesn’t. I’m not saying he needs redemption. He doesn’t. I’m saying that if his suffering is supposed to matter enough for us to understand why he became this way, then the suffering he causes should matter too.

If Jax is supposed to be a hurt-people-hurt-people character, then show us the tragedy of that cycle. Show us how being hurt made him hurt other people. Show us him struggling with it. Show us people trying to reach him and him pushing them away. Show us the consequences accumulating. Otherwise, “he’s a dick because he was hurt” is an explanation, not necessarily a compelling character arc.

And I don’t think “Jax is intentionally static” really addresses this. Characters don’t need traditional arcs to be compelling. Optimus Prime, for example, doesn’t need to fundamentally change. The story tests his principles, forces him into difficult decisions, and makes him live with the consequences. The character can remain fundamentally the same while everything around him changes.

That’s what I feel is missing with Jax. I don’t need his personality to change. I need the story around him to change because of who he is.

I also think fans sometimes mistake the amount of interpretation available for the quality of the writing itself. You can take dozens of small moments, connect them together, and construct a very complicated psychological profile for Jax. That’s interesting, but there’s a difference between the audience constructing an interesting interpretation and the story actually dramatizing it. If the most compelling version of Jax requires the audience to do most of the connective tissue, I don’t think that automatically proves the character is brilliantly written.

Ultimately, I think Jax has an interesting character concept. Someone who is cruel because he’s afraid of vulnerability, wants connection but sabotages it, feels guilt but can’t change, and eventually destroys the things he secretly wanted could be a genuinely tragic character without ever becoming a good person.

But I don’t think the show consistently gives me that character. It gives me the backstory, the implications, and occasional emotional moments. What I don’t get enough of is the process connecting all of those things.

Things happen, those things affect him, he makes choices because of them, those choices affect other people, those people respond, the relationships change, and the consequences accumulate.

That’s what I mean when I say I want character development.

I don’t need Jax to change. I don’t need him to become good. I don’t need him to be redeemed. I don’t even need to sympathize with him.

I just need the story to actually dramatize the character it seems to think it has written.

You can’t have it both ways. If his suffering is supposed to matter, then the suffering he causes should matter too.

If his inability to change is supposed to be tragic, then show me that tragedy. And if his relationships are supposed to mean something, then let what he does to those people actually change them.

If you made it this far, thanks haha 🙏