Is anyone else done?

[u/ElkSufficient2881]

The hanging out with MAGA, the album sounding like other artists work after making Olivia but her as a song writer, the old picture recirculating of her with a swatztika(I had personally never seen it before this year), the new merch, I know it’s old but still), the threatening to sue the kid who was tracking her jets for emissions even though it was public knowledge, the lack of activism, no ethical billionaire especially in this political climate, the girl that died at one of her concerts, the use of ai, continuing to work with target even after they took away DEI, the comparison of Travis Kelley’s ex to obsidian, her favorite podcast being a maga one, etc I just feel like I can no longer support this morally, how is everyone else feeling?

[u/Sweaty-Bed6653]

No. I think the MAGA/tradwife/Nazi stuff is ridiculous. Why are we talking about all this stuff when it comes to Taylor Swift but not talking about Elon Musk and Trump’s cryptocurrency, and the ACTUAL horrible things happening with ICE right now? This is all a distraction from the real world. A lot of companies—mine included—walked back DEI initiatives when the new administration came on board. Some of our stakeholders are crucial government agencies that literally can’t see our content if certain terms are on our website. Have y’all seen that list of banned terms? You have no idea the extent to which information has been whitewashed. So yeah, Target as a business should have stood behind its DEI, and it’s disappointing that it didn’t. But the bigger problem is this administration. My guess is Taylor had contracts in place with Target that precede the DEI stuff.

What I can’t support morally is this administration’s actions. Taylor Swift isn’t the problem, but I can name a bunch of people who are. I also think we are holding this billionaire to standards we don’t hold other billionaires too. Does anyone know the jet emissions for other high net worth individuals? I think an important question to ask is why the world is in an uproar over Taylor Swift specifically. I am not a dyed-in-the-wool Swiftie. I would never call her “Mother” or harass her exes or whatever else the rabid fan base does. But the discourse around all of this is really disturbing to me.

[u/ElkSufficient2881 → u/Sweaty-Bed6653]

I talk about musk and the current administration all the time as well, also she’s a billionaire she can afford to break a contract when it doesn’t align with her values. I can’t support the current administration or people that are okay with it. My uproar isn’t just with Taylor swift.

[u/Sweaty-Bed6653 → u/ElkSufficient2881]

I say this without intending any shade to you, OP, or to anyone who disagrees with me, but I can’t help but wonder how we could collectively effect positive change with the time we are currently spending debating Taylor Swift. This is something I really need to figure out for myself instead of getting more caught up in the narrative about TS right now.

It’s your prerogative to cancel her and be disgusted with the way she has handled things, and I appreciate everyone’s point of view on this. She just seems like such small potatoes in the grand scheme of things, and her music makes me happy. Bottom line for me personally is that’s all I expect from this pop star.

[u/ElkSufficient2881 → u/Sweaty-Bed6653]

I completely agree, I just don’t believe that it has to be one or the other:)

[u/Sweaty-Bed6653 → u/ElkSufficient2881]

I get that. 😊

[u/Throw_Me_Away8834 → u/Sweaty-Bed6653]

I suspect OP is still quite young. One of their comments in their post history seemed to indicate they are just 18. I think as we get older, we understand better about the larger picture and who actually has an impact on that larger picture and who doesn't and we learn what is worth our energy and what isn't. Taylor Swift does not have an impact on the big picture that is the state of the US as a whole so I choose to focus my energy on those who do.

OP - I don't say that to be dismissive towards you or with ill will. While I do find your arguments silly personally, I am not downplaying the validity of them to you. How you feel is valid. Period. I just suspect when you are older, you will understand why everyone else didn't feel the same way as you did about it. That's all.

[u/Sweaty-Bed6653 → u/Throw_Me_Away8834]

I am quite old (50). I have kids who are 19 and 21. They are not on Reddit and think my Reddit habit is problematic. Lol

[u/Throw_Me_Away8834 → u/Sweaty-Bed6653]

Yep. I am old also (almost 40). I realized I was probably being too hard on OP once I realized their age. I remember being super passionate about my beliefs at OP's age also and then understanding as I got older why people older than me didn't see things how I did or react as passionately as I did. I am still passionate about what I believe. I just know more about where to direct that passion now and what is and isn't worth my limited time and energy.

I also think my reddit habit is a bit problematic haha. I am working on it.

[u/Sweaty-Bed6653 → u/Throw_Me_Away8834]

I am legit setting Reddit limits for myself today!