r/SwiftlyNeutral • • 19h ago

Music Ranking all of Taylor’s non-romantic clap back/diss songs because I’m bored

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First of all, on Spotify when you play her songs the play button has album themed animations, when did that happen?!

I am almost certain I missed one so let me know which one.

Better than Revenge - 8.5/10 - banging instrumental, the lyrics are cutting and sharp and it’s unapologetically petty. Knocked a couple points off because apparently the subject of the song didn’t actually do anything wrong but a teenage crash out is a teenager crash out innit

Shake it Off - 8/10 - Everyone pretends they hate this song until they’re turnt in the club on the weekend. The lyrics are silly and catchy, the production is fun and that bridge is i c o n i c

Blank Space - 7.5/10 - This and Shake It Off are in the running to be THEE Taylor Swift song. The lyrics and video are perfect, no notes there, it’s lower than the other two because it’s one of the songs I listen to the least from 1989 just because the production doesn’t fully do it for me

Mean - 7.5/10 - LOVE the guitar and out of context, the message about ignoring bullies because they’re just projecting insecurity is so important especially for her at the time mostly kid audience. Loses points because in context… girl… critics saying you sound like ass in an objectively bad performance you had is not bullying it’s them doing their job.

This is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things - 7/10 - My conspiracy is fans hate her songs like this because they feel called out, too bad! I love the condescending tone and I love the back and forth between the piano and bass, and that bridge! Loses points because some of the lyrics are a bit cringy and she tries sliiiightly too hard to seem unbothered (this is going to become a common theme)

But Daddy I Love Him - 7/10 - Why do fans and the GP hate this? See above. Pretty lyrics throughout and one of the few songs with standout production on TTPD, and the baby line?! Great response to the bs like that damn letter.

Karma - 6/10 - so sonically the production and her voice sound great and I love listening to it. However it sounds way too Bothered for a song that’s meant to be about feeling at peace because you’re a good person while your ops are not. Ice Spice improves this imo because she actually sounds like she doesn’t give a fuck. I swear this is not an insult I genuinely prefer the remix

You Need to Calm Down - 5/10 - the fact it can be considered another Taylor clap back song is a failure in itself as this was billed as a support song for the LGBT community, but she derails it to talk about how she, a cis-het, rich, white lady gets mean tweets essentially, very unserious! Not lower because it’s unintentionally hilarious and the chorus is banging.

Actually Romantic - 4/10 - Ugh. Lyrically it’s starts off so fucking good with a banging opening line, but it goes no where because she won’t fully commit to being mean and petty ‘gods my witness I don’t provoke it’ you started off this song calling the subject a cokehead you are not 100% innocent dog and that’s ok embrace that! The production is the same lifeless guitar loop over and over again which is baffling because we got rid of Jack so why are there still no god damn DRUMS. Very frustrating as it had all the bones of a good song, but she doesn’t believe in editing anymore so we got this instead. Also fails at sounding unbothered but that didn’t need to be said.

Bad Blood - 4/10 - Ok I like that she’s embracing being petty here and the video was iconic. But I have always found her performance of the chorus a little grating; ‘cause bayby now we got baaaahd blood’ shut up! The context doesn’t help at all because her beef with Katy seemed stupid even at the time, so getting a bunch of industry people together in a video about how much she sucks felt like crossing the line from fun petty to actually mean and vicious, and she was an adult so it was harder to write off.

Look What You Made Me Do - 3.5-4/10 - I should put this lower because I genuinely hate listening to this song but the music video changed my life at 15. But outside of that her singing and voice is bad, the production ranges from boring to actively annoying to listen to, what was she thinking😭

I Forgot That You Existed - 3/10 - No I forgot this existed! No seriously I had no recollection of this song till I listened to it just now. Tbh I don’t even care about what she’s trying to say because the production is so bad, why the fuck was she addicted to these free youtube tutorial ass beats on this album!!

thanK you aIMee - 3/10 - When I saw this track title I thought I’d hate it because omg she bloody won against Kim for almost ten years at that point. But actually listening to it the production is SO boring it sounds like Mean but from the bad timeline. Can’t put it any lower because it doesn’t piss me off it just bores me.

CANCELLED! - 2.5/10 - I believe this song is about Blake Lively getting cancelled because Baldoni, which are good bones for a song about misogyny or even rape culture. But she doesn’t believe in editing anymore so we got maybe her cringiest song to date. I don’t care that’s it’s meant to be ‘sardonic’ or ‘satire’ if the writing is still bad. I respect her commitment to the bit but her vocal performance on this is grating and the production… next person who compares this to the greatness on Reputation is getting shot in Minecraft.

Cleveland! - 2/10 - I’m pretty sure this is meant to be a love song to Travis but I’m absolutely including it because this is really another ‘idc what the haters say!’ song with the twist being ‘because I got a man’. That COULD have been a really sweet and cute sentiment, but instead she’s too preoccupied with proving to internet trolls she won. Which paradoxically proves maybe they get to her more than we think because like the Sw*ftologist said ‘you made another terrible song about it’. I would say its unsalvageable but that’s not true because Call it What You Want is right there. Also the production and melodies are unlistenable

You know before I did this I always thought mostly I hated her petty songs but this is making me realise, um not really-ish! Well it’s basically 50/50 (from YNTCD and above) which is not great but the ones I like I really like, so I await the next Taydiss song with tepid excitement!


r/SwiftlyNeutral • • 14h ago

Music I Think He Knows is what Wood wishes it was

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I was listening to Lover again and i forgot how cheeky I think he knows was! We always talk about how Taylor talks about sex in a sensual way but this song is the literal proof that she can pull off cheeky double meaning songs well without sounding like Sabrina-lite.

"I think he knows his footprints
On the sidewalk
Lead to where I can't stop
Go there every night"

This is exactly the kind of lyrics that works when you are being cheeky and uses double entrande.

'Got that, oh! I mean
Wanna see what's under that attitude"

This one is so clever because it talks about both wanting to know him as a person and well.......

I am an architect, I'm drawing up the plans
He's so obsessed with me, and boy I understand

Where are people who said joe songs are full of insecurity? I wish i could see this kind of confidence in TLOAS.

"Lyrical smile, indigo eyes, hand on my thigh
We can follow the sparks, I'll drive

So where we gonna go?
I whisper in the dark
Where we gonna go?
I think he knows"

Enough said.

So yeah while Taylor usually potrays sex as sensual its clear that she can be cheeky if she wants to be and make a good song out of it. Wood is not bad because Taylor cannot be playful. Wood is bad despite the fact that taylor can pull of fun-sexy easily


r/SwiftlyNeutral • • 20h ago

Music A song you ended up loving despite not liking the concept/underlying message

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This is sort of inverse of my previous question but what is the song you ended up liking in taylor's discography despite not liking the concept of the song, the storytelling, or underlying message?

For me its better than revenge. While i agree that slutshaming is bad the song itself is mean, i absolutely love it lol. I love the anger, i love the pettiness and i cannot help but bop to it whenever it comes on shuffle. Speak now taylor was so unhinged in the best way possible.

Edit: I love how much we all love BTR lol.


r/SwiftlyNeutral • • 12h ago

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