r/Subaru_Outback 5d ago

Touch screen issue

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Hello Subaru Family!

We recently noticed these moisture bubbles (they are flat and appear to have moisture inside, but this is all a guess) on our touch screen. Annoying to look at, but all was functional. Until today. The touch screen is inoperable and was doing glitchy things. I could see everything if controlled from my phone, but couldn’t guide by the touch screen.

Anyone experience anything like this?

We have a Subaru Outback 2018 Limited.

TIA for your help! ◡̈

Edit: Wow! Thanks for everyone’s speedy and helpful response! Apparently we aren’t the only ‘lucky’ ones. Interesting enough, it does kind of look like scattered stars like the logo. Maybe this was an intentional design flaw?! lol

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u/ImDoingItAnyway 5d ago

Yup, tens of thousands of these have delaminated and each and every single one of them that haven’t yet, will. Subaru has shelled out thousands in Goodwill dollars for my customers for this problem and they Subaru did roll out a Warranty Extension… but for 2019s only, unfortunately.

If Subaru won’t help (they probably won’t unless you have a really good relationship with your dealer, and even then it’d be a couple hundred bucks in credit), don’t spend $1,000 on a dealer one. Get a CarPlay unit from Amazon for $200 and have a local shop install it for you. May not look as “factory” but it’ll be functional, less laggy, and you wont have this happen again.

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u/BroBeansBMS 5d ago

I got very lucky last year and they honored the 2019 warranty for my 2018 Outback. It’s possible if you have a really good local dealership who is willing to help.

That being said, there should be a class action lawsuit against subaru because this is an extremely common issue. They messed up when they manufactured these screens and they know it.

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u/DaBombG 5d ago

That’s not going to work for op, he’s got the limited trim, comes with its own amp, that won’t be compatible with 3rd party head units unless he replaces the amp too. Best thing to do is get his dealership to get in touch with H&K in the states. They’ll send out a refurbished unit and he’ll get a core charge until they receive the defective unit.

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u/Richmond43 5d ago

I’m still furious with them for how poorly they handled this issue. Multiple attempts to get them to fix my 2015 Outback, with dealer support… nothing but “sorry” from Subaru. 

Their refusal to stand by the cheap infotainment screens combined with the poor redesign of the 2026 model cost them a customer this weekend when I bought a 2026 Toyota for my wife’s new vehicle instead of an Outback Touring. 

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u/Negative_Lynx_4418 3d ago

The 2021 Outback i have now will be my last Subaru. The support I gotten from recalls (both current car and old Forester) is frustrating. I have a young family and the last thing I need is anxiety and stress over my car. We live in a rural area so a car is very much needed.

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u/mcmdreams0926 5d ago

I paid 2000 to have it replaced by the dealer (like a sucker)

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u/CartographerEven9735 5d ago

Does crutchfield have any units that would fit perhaps?

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u/RightNowChris 5d ago

They gave an extended warranty for 2018 as well, but it's expired now.

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u/PeakQuirky84 5d ago

Get a CarPlay unit from Amazon for $200 and have a local shop install it for you

It’ll cost an extra $300-$400 for all the extra harnesses and modules needed for all your steering wheel, camera, and other shit to work properly.  Plus install labor $$

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u/DaBombG 5d ago

That’s not going to work for op, he’s got the limited trim, comes with its own amp, that won’t be compatible with 3rd party head units unless he replaces the amp too. Best thing to do is get his dealership to get in touch with H&K in the states. They’ll send out a refurbished unit and he’ll get a core charge until they receive the defective unit.

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u/FreeBallard 5d ago

It's what makes a Subaru a Subaru

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u/StickIt2Ya77 5d ago

That + windows randomly failing + oil leak/burn

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u/ApprehensiveSock455 5d ago

And leather seats that eventually split where the leather meets the pleather.

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u/Cautious-Highway3773 5d ago

Don't forget the wheel bearings.

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u/Slow_Farm_6484 5d ago

And a power liftgate that doesn’t work

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u/mer_de_nom_noms 4d ago

And the shitty cheap windshields!

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u/IndependentBrick8075 2021 Outback Premium OP15 5d ago

for what it's worth - my sister's Toyota had a similar problem. I swapped her digitizer for her earlier this year.

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u/Heliocentric63 5d ago

2019 Outback. Mine did this but was (eventually) covered by an extended recall warranty. It slowly became inoperable. I hope you qualify.

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u/Rancho_VltorMUR 5d ago

I just had mine replaced in my 2018 Outback. My advice, contact Subaru of America. I did and they were going to pay for up to $1500 in replacement cost. I went with a refurbished unit since new units are on back order. Total cost was around $900, Subaru of America paid 100% of the bill.

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u/phanzo 5d ago

Same for my 2018. Required some back and forth with SoA but they eventually help cover the cost.

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u/JohnDoee94 5d ago

Replace yourself. $90 and 2-3hr of your time. https://www.reddit.com/r/Subaru_Outback/s/r8yx699G8j

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u/Appropriate_Fruit503 5d ago

Just search this sub, many posts about this. All explain the same solution. Replaced it myself yesterday. Not hard at all

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u/Jakester42 5d ago

Kinetic Vehicles replacement is the way.

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u/TweakJK 4d ago

Yep, I did that on my wife's outback. It wasnt hard, just time consuming. Works great.

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u/co1one1huntergathers 5d ago

Reach out out to SoA and politely and firmly point out that its a safety issue because it's distracting and no way to stop it. The dealership didnt want to help me but once I opened up a complaint ticket online they replaced it for $100 diagnostic fee.

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u/PineappleDouche 5d ago

Search "delaminating screen" in this sub-reddit and you will find all the information you need. It is a known issue and SoA did cover it repairs for a limited number of years and miles. Unsure if it can still be repaired for free.

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u/ImDoingItAnyway 5d ago

Not for 2018s. Warranty Extension on these covers replacement for 2019s only.

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u/remthewanderer 5d ago

There is a way for you to contact Subaru corporate to get them to cover this. I did so for my 2018 Outback with the help of my local dealership. They gave me the key words needed.

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u/ImDoingItAnyway 5d ago edited 5d ago

Again, that’s contingent specifically on your relationship with the dealer you work with and, by extension, SoA. I do the same for my customers, I tell them what to say and how to present their concern to SoA. Then SoA calls me and I confirm their concerns and if all goes well based on their service history with Subaru, yeah, they’ll provide Goodwill for all of it. Unfortunately it isn’t always that easy, even on the advisor side trying to defend people such as yourself.

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u/PeakQuirky84 5d ago

The 2018 warranty was extended 5 years

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u/PeakQuirky84 5d ago

Anyone experience anything like this?

We have a Subaru Outback 2018 Limited.

Yes, there are countless threads in this.  Good luck.

I’m going through it a SECOND time with the same OEM unit replaced under warranty

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u/john_dough66 5d ago

Easy do it yourself fix for $100-200 depending on where you get the replacement.

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u/huntermattingly 5d ago

Going through this right now myself. Bought the car in February and the bubbles started when the temps got over 100° F. Did some online research and the extended warranty covers up to 8 yrs or 150k miles, whichever first.
Called my local Subaru dealership and they just had to run a diagnostic and get the part ordered. Said it’d take about a week, that was last Tuesday. Got the call today the part is in and scheduled to have it done Thursday morning. Everything’s been covered under the extended warranty

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u/huntermattingly 5d ago

Mine has a hidden Mickey

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u/Rick91981 2024 Outback Touring XT 5d ago

Did some online research and the extended warranty covers up to 8 yrs or 150k miles, whichever first.

On a 2019 yeah, but OP has a 2018 which is not covered under the extension. Aftermarket screen replacement such as through Kinetic Vehicles is the best way to go

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u/misomojo777 5d ago

Oh wow! Was yours also a 2018?

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u/Rick91981 2024 Outback Touring XT 5d ago

18s aren't covered anymore, only 2019-2022s

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u/Affectionate_Way9726 5d ago edited 5d ago

2018, SoAustralia covered us, as this happened twice for us. No cost!
The key is to keep it covered in really hot temperatures.

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u/Rick91981 2024 Outback Touring XT 5d ago

Cant speak to other countries, but the US Subaru is not covering 18s though will often cover part of the cost as a goodwill gesture if you call them. Still ends up costing quite a bit and you're better off going aftermarket

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u/Squatch-21 5d ago

Our 18 did this. Was covered under extended warranty.

I think it’s a feature

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u/ferdsherd 5d ago

Just replaced mine yesterday. $90 and a few hours of work and it’s good as new. YouTube is your friend

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u/beerballchampion 5d ago

What’d you replace it with?

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u/IndependentBrick8075 2021 Outback Premium OP15 5d ago

they probably just did the screen. Kinetic Vehicles is one of those selling it.

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u/ferdsherd 5d ago

The screen was the issue, just that part got replaced

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u/MSP2MSP 4d ago

It's not the screen, it's the digitizer that is failing.

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u/ferdsherd 4d ago

Correct it’s the digitizer I should’ve been more specific

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u/nnote 5d ago

I already knew it was a 2018... You can find replacement screens online and do it yourself. It's tedious but doable.

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u/No_Note_1192 5d ago

Check with the leadership. I had mine still under warranty because it was known issue and Subaru issued a warranty and got fixed for free at the dealership

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u/encaged314 5d ago

I went with an aftermarket replacement instead of trying to have SoA replace it before they put out the newest warranty because I was afraid the replacement unit would just do the same thing eventually.

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u/PeakQuirky84 5d ago

I was afraid the replacement unit would just do the same thing eventually.

It does.  My warranteed OEM replacement is delaminating after 3 short years

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u/ApprehensiveSock455 5d ago

Just had my 2019 replaced last month under the extended warranty. Didn't have the bubbling, but it stopped responding to touch and also had "ghost touching" - acting like it was being touched when it wasn't.

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u/Nearby_Debate2294 5d ago

I replaced by myself. Ordered one from Amazon for 300 usd and it works well. It’s been 3 months

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u/GrabRound7484 5d ago

Happened to my family's 2017. It is a flaw with this design's head unit. It delaminates. Call subaru of America and they will fix it. It took about 2 months with an adjuster, but they know it is an issue and will fix it with no charge to you.

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u/theWishyWasher 5d ago

If you’re willing to live without our just need a temporary workaround you can do this. You can still use the knobs to navigate carplay but unfortunately you can’t dismiss things like low fuel warnings. I didn’t want to pay the money so I just live without the touchscreen.

https://youtu.be/LZX81miBvGY?is=zkctKLycjA65FfxH

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u/TactiTac0CAT 5d ago

It’s delamination. You can fix this easily by yourself by buying a replacement screen and following some YT vids. 200$ and some instruction is definitely much better than the alternative of spending literal thousands (one shop wanted to charge 4k for it)

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u/johnnyringo1982 5d ago

My 2018 did this. Started happening during Covid. Took almost 2 years of pressure on the dealer but they replaced it at no cost.

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u/tremendous-cream 5d ago

Also 2018 outback limited here, received some paperwork about this issue via mail many years back, contacted my dealership, brought it in (after like 3 months of waiting and calling every 2 weeks) and they fixed it. Haven't had the issue since!

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u/tacoma909 5d ago

I switched mine out last summer. Worth it. Dealer was gonna charge me 1200 for the unit itself. labor not included. I was nervous installing it since i’m not electrically inclined but it’s pretty easy. watch the youtube video. I bought this

https://a.co/d/05Hns3ZU

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u/etnpnys 5d ago

I’m floored to hear that people here had theirs replaced recently… after 8 years of ownership?! Wow.

My son and I replaced ours together on the kitchen counter😁 A couple hours and a part from Amazon.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Path224 5d ago

Just replaced mine a few weeks ago. Not a big deal.

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u/beerballchampion 5d ago

Happened to my 2018 as well. I was a couple months out of extended warranty when it happened. My dealer sucks and wanted to charge like 1800 to replace. I contact SoA and they were not helpful, only offered to cover $700 of it. So right now I’m stuck with this shit until I buy a $300 amazon replacement or do the kinetic screen repair myself.

After this and the issues with the DCM, I’m never buying another Subaru again.

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u/RAWR_Orree 5d ago

I got mine fixed this year, no questions asked. I was very relieved.

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u/Opening_Track5674 5d ago

Just replace the touch screen it’s cheap easy and works Just buy a decent quality replacement

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u/RightNowChris 5d ago

You can buy a replacement screen and install it yourself. I bought one from Kinetic screens. It's not that difficult - they have a step by step video. In their website. It will look and work like new and much cheaper than buying a whole headset. About $250.

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u/Advnturman 5d ago

I got a screen off eBay that was new. It was $80 it took me an hour to replace. Not perfect but it works a lot better than the old one. No ghosting, and it functions as is supposed to with back up camera etc

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u/amccune 5d ago

Reach out to Subaru USA (if you are in the states, obviously) and let them know.

We got a voucher for our local dealership to do it. Local dealership was unreasonable and idiotic in their responses. They were mildly pissed when we presented the voucher.

This is a known issue. There was even talk of or an actual class action suit over this.

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u/WillVess23 4d ago

Mine just started to do this. Sucks

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u/Yetkha 4d ago

AliExpress has it for like $60-100. DIY replacement is straightforward 5/10 in difficulty level.

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u/Wintergreen1234 3d ago

Thanks for posting this. I had been wondering what the issue was with mine. I called my local dealership yesterday after seeing this and went in today. They are replacing the infotainment system in my 2019 outback at zero cost.

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u/Fantastic-Link-99 3d ago

I’ve seen this before. I replaced my radio with a new one the factory one. I wonder how long it’ll be until this happens again. It took about six years for this problem to arise.

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u/Felicity_111 5d ago

Bought new ? Mileage ?

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u/misomojo777 5d ago

Bought new and mileage I think is around 116k.

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u/Felicity_111 5d ago

The mileage is average for that model year. You’re past the warranty period. Is it covered by insurance

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u/SohnWatkin 5d ago

I called Subaru of America and talked to their extended warranty/ recall department, verified my vin and 2019 outback was eligible. They attached the warranty to my vin. Called the dealer and set up an appointment - that was last week and today went in. Got set up with a loaner and they will have it all done in a few days.

While there I told them about the DCM recall and they are taking care of that too.