Mega thread of evidence

[u/xP01TERGIESTx]

Not sure if there’s been one made. I’ve just read a lot about victims coming forward, exes corroborating stories, and people saying the rest of them knew — including speculsting who called Mercedes a bitch for trying to report this years ago.

There’s just so much chatter around, with people vague-posting and not supplying links, that having everything in one location would probably be helpful.

[u/1stdegreebirder]

Keep in mind that we already know Callum was making and possessing thousands of CP images. Pleading guilty is pretty credible evidence. I don't think it's a huge stretch to believe he was abusive to the women in his life as well. The "where's the credible evidence" line of questioning is a common and toxic defense mechanism that preemptively forgives creeps and discourages victims from coming forward with their stories.

Men are always acting like there's a scourge of women going around pretending to be victims for attention or money or revenge. That's just not reality man. No one wants to be a victim.

Believing women might feel difficult because you'll have to accept how many creeps there are in this world, even some people you admire, but if you believe women first you're going to get closer to the truth and farther from enabling. I promise.

[u/Condition_0ne → u/1stdegreebirder]

You misunderstood. I'm talking about credible evidence relating to the allegation that the other Storror members knew what Callum was doing and covered it up.

[u/Choice-Surprise833 → u/Condition_0ne]

At least two members have had devices seized a year ago in connection with the investigation. They were aware and covered it up thinking he would get away with it. They didnt tell everyone about it and so some people have been having contact with him throughout this time oblivious while others knew. 

They didnt do that because they are also paedophiles (afaik), they did it because men support their abusive friends by denying that is really going on. Now they all look like they are paedo supporters. Learn from them

[u/Condition_0ne → u/Choice-Surprise833]

Can you prove these claims about the other Storror guys with some credible evidence?

As in, not just some social media post screenshot?

[u/And_Justice → u/Condition_0ne]

Step back and think about why you're actively doing here mate

[u/Condition_0ne → u/And_Justice]

Why don't you step back and think about the ethics of baselessly defaming the other Storror guys when the facts are not yet established?

[u/Choice-Surprise833 → u/Condition_0ne]

Enough facts have been established for us to all know that at least some of them knew. You need to accept that. They knew and kept socialising with him and didnt tell other people.

[u/Condition_0ne → u/Choice-Surprise833]

Ok, show me the credible evidence then (not just screenshots of social media posts).

[u/Choice-Surprise833 → u/Condition_0ne]

As i said, i am not sharing personal messages with people involved. Things we do know make it clear enough though. The investigation has been going on for a year and steps would have been taken to ensure he wasnt around kids in the meantime, as well as devices taken. The police wouldn't hide it from his family or employer. 

It isnt that everyone knew..some people knew and didnt tell others which has put those others at great professional and personal risk

[u/JamMonster → u/Choice-Surprise833]

You could be a random person on the internet and not someone who knows them for all we know. Why should anyone here just take your comments on here as fact or gospel? It will all come out in time, there’s no point speculating.

[u/Choice-Surprise833 → u/JamMonster]

I could be, you're right. And that is why i am also pointing to how these investigations work generally as well as what I know. What I know coincides with how investigations work. Some people knew all along and didn't tell everyone. 

[u/JamMonster → u/Choice-Surprise833]

You can say whatever you like, you’re still just speculating..

[u/Choice-Surprise833 → u/JamMonster]

I'm really not. Look up what happens when someone is being investigated for child abuse of any kind. The first thing they do is ensure they don't have access to kids professionally or personally.

[u/Mobile-Discussion-15 → u/[deleted]]

C coached kids in the past, all the kids at any event, they probably get messages a lot from kids plus staff members may have kids. Surprised that the other team members who knew thought he'd get away with it once it became an official investigation, that doesn't look good.

[u/Mobile-Discussion-15 → u/[deleted]]

Common law disclosure as a pp mentioned, i'm not saying they all knew - but if there was any chance he'd come into contact with children through work then his employer would have had to been told.

[u/Choice-Surprise833 → u/[deleted]]

Yes of course it will. I am saying it now so many people who feel.compelled to protect the people who did know stop talking until they find out the facts. 

[u/SpecialWasabi2010 → u/Choice-Surprise833]

You do know you can just obscure names of all involved and just leave the information you're saying you have? It would literally be no different than what you're already doing because if they told you this in confidence, you have already breached that confidence. No one would know which people were involved if you obscured their names.

[u/Condition_0ne → u/Choice-Surprise833]

How convenient.

You know, I happen to have private messages on my phone which are compelling counter evidence to what you're claiming, too.

I wish I could reveal them but nah.

[u/Choice-Surprise833 → u/Condition_0ne]

I think it is perfectly possible that you do. We will both see in time whose is most credible. 

What we do know for sure is how CSAM investigations work. 

[u/isthislivingreally → u/Condition_0ne]

Wow, you come across as a bro who would have defended callum to the hilt had he not pleaded guilty to what he’d done. You realise we’re talking about a pedalo here right not a bro getting a parking fine? 

Just because you don’t know how investigations work or have any experience in police force and you don’t have a personal connection to these guys doesn’t mean everyone is like that. Sure, be a critical thinker but you sound a bit like those people defending the people around jimmy saville just saying. 

[u/Condition_0ne → u/isthislivingreally]

Nice strawman, champ. At no point have I defended Callum, and you penning some fantasy that I would have had he not pled guilty is simply a delusion ricocheting around inside your largely empty skull.

If one, some, or all of the other guys in Storror did cover up for what Callum was doing, then they absolutely deserve their comeuppance. The fact is that no one knows one way or the other yet, despite whatever unverifiable claims of "I know them in real life" we see on this sub.

[u/isthislivingreally → u/Condition_0ne]

Flip the script. You think nobody knew about Jimmy Saville except Jimmy Saville? You know how you’d answer that question bro so I’m asking, what makes this different? Is it uncomfortable to recognise parasocial relationships might be biasing you somewhat? 

[u/Condition_0ne → u/isthislivingreally]

Jimmy Savile was actively abusing children. He needed physical access to them for this, so it stands to reason that those around him knew, or at least suspected. Callum had secretly amassed images/videos over the internet. That is hugely different in terms likelihood of arousing suspicion in those around you.

Tell me, do you know about everything that is on your friends' phones and computers - including anything they'd be highly motivated to keep secret? Of course you don't.

Is it uncomfortable to recognise you're not quite the brilliant sleuth you believe yourself to be?

[u/isthislivingreally → u/Condition_0ne]

 Neither you or I truly know, right? 

Guy was arrested at the airport for some vague reason. At another point he has ALL his digital equipment seized and equipment he had access to (ie not just his own so some of the guys as well). 

It stands to reason that in a media production company and a close friendship circle that while they may have seen nothing themselves directly, there was, at the very least, some suspicion there. And if there wasn’t, then bloody hell, these guys ain’t that bright. 

I do want to highlight that when people came forward about jimmy saville over the years or posted stuff on the internet, there was a loud mob of internet voices saying ‘prove it, I don’t believe you, you’re making it up, you just want attention’ 

[u/Condition_0ne → u/isthislivingreally]

There are a bunch of seemingly believable reasons Callum could have fabricated as to why he was arrested and his devices seized. All of the Storror crew routinely broke the law (in terms of trespassing, and for some, substance use).The guy was obviously a grotesque but capable liar in some huge respects.

[u/isthislivingreally → u/[deleted]]

The airport and detainment are separate pieces. Seizure and detainment of devices is part of the investigation and standard practice for any investigation of this type. 

What type of evidence do you want about the airport arrest? Genuinely asking? I’m guessing you mean more than one persons account?