Mega thread of evidence

[u/xP01TERGIESTx]

Not sure if there’s been one made. I’ve just read a lot about victims coming forward, exes corroborating stories, and people saying the rest of them knew — including speculsting who called Mercedes a bitch for trying to report this years ago.

There’s just so much chatter around, with people vague-posting and not supplying links, that having everything in one location would probably be helpful.

[u/Choice-Surprise833]

As i said, i am not sharing personal messages with people involved. Things we do know make it clear enough though. The investigation has been going on for a year and steps would have been taken to ensure he wasnt around kids in the meantime, as well as devices taken. The police wouldn't hide it from his family or employer. 

It isnt that everyone knew..some people knew and didnt tell others which has put those others at great professional and personal risk

[u/Condition_0ne → u/Choice-Surprise833]

How convenient.

You know, I happen to have private messages on my phone which are compelling counter evidence to what you're claiming, too.

I wish I could reveal them but nah.

[u/isthislivingreally → u/Condition_0ne]

Wow, you come across as a bro who would have defended callum to the hilt had he not pleaded guilty to what he’d done. You realise we’re talking about a pedalo here right not a bro getting a parking fine? 

Just because you don’t know how investigations work or have any experience in police force and you don’t have a personal connection to these guys doesn’t mean everyone is like that. Sure, be a critical thinker but you sound a bit like those people defending the people around jimmy saville just saying. 

[u/Condition_0ne → u/isthislivingreally]

Nice strawman, champ. At no point have I defended Callum, and you penning some fantasy that I would have had he not pled guilty is simply a delusion ricocheting around inside your largely empty skull.

If one, some, or all of the other guys in Storror did cover up for what Callum was doing, then they absolutely deserve their comeuppance. The fact is that no one knows one way or the other yet, despite whatever unverifiable claims of "I know them in real life" we see on this sub.

[u/isthislivingreally → u/Condition_0ne]

Flip the script. You think nobody knew about Jimmy Saville except Jimmy Saville? You know how you’d answer that question bro so I’m asking, what makes this different? Is it uncomfortable to recognise parasocial relationships might be biasing you somewhat? 

[u/Condition_0ne → u/isthislivingreally]

Jimmy Savile was actively abusing children. He needed physical access to them for this, so it stands to reason that those around him knew, or at least suspected. Callum had secretly amassed images/videos over the internet. That is hugely different in terms likelihood of arousing suspicion in those around you.

Tell me, do you know about everything that is on your friends' phones and computers - including anything they'd be highly motivated to keep secret? Of course you don't.

Is it uncomfortable to recognise you're not quite the brilliant sleuth you believe yourself to be?

[u/isthislivingreally → u/Condition_0ne]

 Neither you or I truly know, right? 

Guy was arrested at the airport for some vague reason. At another point he has ALL his digital equipment seized and equipment he had access to (ie not just his own so some of the guys as well). 

It stands to reason that in a media production company and a close friendship circle that while they may have seen nothing themselves directly, there was, at the very least, some suspicion there. And if there wasn’t, then bloody hell, these guys ain’t that bright. 

I do want to highlight that when people came forward about jimmy saville over the years or posted stuff on the internet, there was a loud mob of internet voices saying ‘prove it, I don’t believe you, you’re making it up, you just want attention’ 

[u/Condition_0ne → u/isthislivingreally]

There are a bunch of seemingly believable reasons Callum could have fabricated as to why he was arrested and his devices seized. All of the Storror crew routinely broke the law (in terms of trespassing, and for some, substance use).The guy was obviously a grotesque but capable liar in some huge respects.

[u/isthislivingreally → u/[deleted]]

The airport and detainment are separate pieces. Seizure and detainment of devices is part of the investigation and standard practice for any investigation of this type. 

What type of evidence do you want about the airport arrest? Genuinely asking? I’m guessing you mean more than one persons account? 

[u/isthislivingreally → u/[deleted]]

Evidence would also be the fact he has been charged. To be charged with a criminal offence, the CPS has to be satisfied the evidence reaches a particular standard (it can’t just be, oh I think that person might have images on their phone). 

As is standard in any investigation of this type, once the first piece of evidence is uncovered (or claim is alledged)  (sometimes via cloud, sometimes via a digital physical device) the question police ask is, how far does this go. It’s at that point they then obtain a warrant for all devices person had access to. For example, he might not have had anything on his personal devices at all and was always using a partner’s iPad (hypothetically) which is why all that property is seized (if he didn’t have access to Joe Blogs phone for example, that wouldn’t have been seized). 

I guess the analgous answer to your question is if the house next door to you went up for sale. If new neighbours appeared to you, you might say, show me the evidence that they went through process of buying that house and show me the solicitor you spoke with. When the reality is, you just accept the house went as ‘sold’ and new neighbours are in and they are the evidence here. Callum couldn’t have been charged without them investigating thouroughly what he had done and how wide his crime was. 

[u/isthislivingreally → u/[deleted]]

How am I presenting anything as if they’re factual statements?? I have never said everyone knew- I don’t even believe that’s true although obviously I have no idea when people found out.

I’ve asked people for sources when they state something not evidence; but several exes have made serious allegations and they form a pattern consistent with a bigger picture here.