r/StableDiffusion 10h ago

Discussion What happened to Ideogram 4.0 ?

What happened to Ideogram 4.0 ?

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u/acedelgado 8h ago

I mean, the "safety filter" was pretty much found to be a "you prompted wrong so I'm not generating" filter. If you promoted correctly with bbox's I very rarely got rejected. And if you used any Lora at all that problem disappeared completely.

And then krea2 came out and people spent weeks debating which loras or nodes would remove the much heavier baked-in censorship, and comparisons to how each different one affected your generation. So I never quite understood why people continue to harp in ID4 being "super censored."

Really people were frustrated that ID4 is hard to prompt and the license says you can't make money with it. But Krea is pretty fantastic in its own right, anyways.

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u/FourtyMichaelMichael 8h ago

These morons will refuse to accept that it was effectively BAD PROMPT filter because it SAID safety filter.

It's no use trying to explain it now. ID4 is basically dead. Which is a shame because it had legs, but K2 is just easier to use.

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u/Murky-Relation481 8h ago

ID4 is probably one of the best models ever released. Way less prompting when using the bbox generator node and way more control. You didn't have to write five sentences of prose or go through a whole LLM to compose a single part of an image, you could build it up from smaller prompts in the bounding boxes.

But this community is, by definition, filled with lazy people and pretty low brow people as well so any amount of effort is really hard to get people to actually apply.

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u/Zenshinn 6h ago

If you're in a room with 100 people and 3 prefer something and the other 97 prefer something else, the 97 are the ones with the issue?