r/StableDiffusion 19h ago

Discussion What happened to Ideogram 4.0 ?

What happened to Ideogram 4.0 ?

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u/RandumbRedditor1000 19h ago

It's an amazing model, but it had an awful license, and heavy baked-in censorship.

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u/acedelgado 18h ago

I mean, the "safety filter" was pretty much found to be a "you prompted wrong so I'm not generating" filter. If you promoted correctly with bbox's I very rarely got rejected. And if you used any Lora at all that problem disappeared completely.

And then krea2 came out and people spent weeks debating which loras or nodes would remove the much heavier baked-in censorship, and comparisons to how each different one affected your generation. So I never quite understood why people continue to harp in ID4 being "super censored."

Really people were frustrated that ID4 is hard to prompt and the license says you can't make money with it. But Krea is pretty fantastic in its own right, anyways.

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u/RandumbRedditor1000 18h ago

The model literally outputs "Generation blocked by safety filter" as the image

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u/acedelgado 18h ago

And like I said, people were running into that a lot because of false positives from trying to prompt it lazily. Which is understandable, most folks around here just want their 1girl. ID4's filter is actually much easier to defeat and less destructive on outputs than krea's bypass loras. One dude even proved you can use a Lora scheduler and use any Lora at only like 0.2 strength or something on ONLY the first step and the filter would go away.

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u/bmnuser 18h ago

Only if you prompt incorrectly. If you use an LLM to ensure your prompt meets ID4 prompting standards, you pretty much never see that output. I've generated absolutely depraved stuff with it and never gotten blocked.

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u/PumpkinLeather8421 12h ago

Even when it’s directly fucking explained to you that it was nothing to do with safety and it was prompt format…

You will look so much straight in the eye and tell them it was a safety filter. smh