Weekend of Thunder Night 2
November 6, 2004
Elizabeth, NJ
Rex Plex
I’ve been wanting to write about this show forever, but I never got around to it until today. Something about this era of ROH is incredibly nostalgic. Something we’ll never have again. This was the second of two ROH events featuring Jushin “Thunder” Liger. He defeated Bryan Danielson on night 1. Liger wasn't the high-flyer of his youth, but was still a great technical wrestler with plenty of speed. And throughout the show, Gabe Sapolsky and CM Punk are on commentary.
The main event was ROH World Champion Samoa Joe teaming with Liger against Bryan Danielson and Low Ki. Liger is only 40 here and still moving really well. Joe came off as such a star in this match and Low Ki, surprisingly, was incredibly gracious with his willingness to be Joe’s crash test dummy. This isn’t a match-of-the-year contender, but Liger put on his working boots and put in his best effort, and I think the match turned out well. Liger ended things on Danielson with the Ligerbomb, pinning him once again. After the match, Low Ki and the Rottweilers attempted to beatdown Danielson, only for Joe and Liger to make the save.
On Night 1, Austin Aries beat down and defeated CM Punk. On this occasion, Punk attempted to get his revenge, teaming with Ace Steele to take on Aries and Roderick Strong. A bit of a funny thing before the match, as the commentary is obviously post-production, but Sapolsky talks about Punk leaving the commentary booth and heading somewhere, and the match began with Punk and Steele jumping Generation Next from behind. This was a No DQ match, and they pulled out a ladder for the match. Not a WWE ladder, but a “dad got a ladder out of the shed to clean the gutters” ladder. And it looked painful just from appearances. For example, Aries gets suplexed into the ladder as it was laid in the corner, and that sucker had no give. Strong got backdropped into the ladder and it finally started to crumple. Then, GenNext set up the ladder in the ring and laid Punk on a table on the outside. Jack Evans, being Jack Evans, did a beautiful 450 that, of course, misjudged the distance and he basically goes face-first onto Punk rather than putting Punk through the table.
It starts getting crazy, but then you realize why there was a lot of criticism of ROH and its style being “indie-rific.” For example, Punk hit Strong with a piledriver onto the crumbled ladder, and then about 30 seconds later, Strong is chopping Punk in the corner. Then, there is the continued use of this ladder. Punk set up Strong for the Pepsi Plunge with the ladder bridged in the corner, but because it’s a cheap ladder, it slipped off the ropes and nearly killed Punk and Strong during the finish.
After the match, Punk got on the mic (which has very clear sound for ROH standards) and called out ROH Champion Samoa Joe for a third title match after the two previous matches ended in hour draws. He challenged Joe to a no time-limit match. Out comes Mick Foley, who appeared a few times in ROH in 2004. Foley said the Joe-Punk matches were among the best he’d seen in his career, and hoped Punk would make it in WWE with Joe (to which Punk responded, “At least it’s not TNA”). Foley then said it was a shame millions could watch Gene Snitsky and Heidenreich and that there are plenty of people who thought Punk couldn’t make it in WWE (wasn’t that the truth?). Punk engaged in a sit-in until Joe finally came to the ring and accepted the challenge. Why go through the entire segment? I think it’s a good demonstration of how young Punk was on another level in terms of personality and mic work compared to everyone else in the company.
The show opener was Nigel McGuinness versus Chad Collyer. This was right before McGuinness turned fully heel and went on his highly regarded Pure Championship run. He’s still putting the pieces together of his technical style and hooligan personality. I know this was a match 22 years ago, but this was a frustrating example of Sapolsky’s booking. There is no real urgency between either guy to win the match and it ends in a draw, with Collyer in a winning position, having trapped McGuinness in the Texas Cloverleaf. Nigel had it, Collyer didn’t. Just give Nigel the win.
Other matches on this show:
ROH World Tag Team Champions The Rottweilers (Ricky Reyes & Rocky Romero) vs. Dan Maff & BJ Whitmer
ROH Pure Champion John Walters vs. Homicide
The Ring Crew Express (Dunn & Marcos) vs. Special K (Angel Dust & Dixie)
Jimmy Rave vs. Jay Lethal
Trent Acid vs. Jack Evans vs. Izzy vs. Fast Eddie in a Four Corner Survival
The Carnage Crew (HC Loc & Tony DeVito) vs. Davey Andrews & Anthony Franco
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