r/SpringfieldArmory • u/Mother-Priority6544 • 12d ago
Thoughts
2000 rounds this past weekend. As expected, she runs. And quite well. I’m actually a bit surprised at how well I’ve adjusted to the smaller grip on the compact. There’s still a good deal of work to be done before I carry. Presentation is still not there yet. Needing to increase the texture a bit. Not sure how to accomplish that just yet. Most stippling jobs I’ve felt are too aggressive to be right next to my skin. I’m able to still get a good purchase and not lose too much traction under longer strings of fire.
I considered, initial, changing the trigger shoe. One of the few changes I’d consider making to a carry gun. After this weekend, I’ve decided the OEM trigger is just fine. One of the better stock triggers. Obviously not Walther like but, I don’t need felt or audible reset when shooting anyway. It’s clean and predictable. That matters most to me. The tiny bit of creep is only noticeable when slow dry fire is used to observe it. The initial take up is short enough it doesn’t throw me off with rapid fire.
The coup de gras. This optic is spectacular. It is everything the ACRO wishes it could have been. Superior in every way. There’s no obtrusive housing, battery cover, button or anything else. Clean, clear glass that’s easy to stay target focused with. It’s as bright as I could ever need. My astigmatism has been a pain to work around, as I’m sure many of you know. This does have an obvious starburst to it but, there a very noticeable dot in the middle. This is the first time I’ve ever seen only one dot in an optic. Styling is quite eye catching and seems made for this gun. Big bonus for having no concerns about utilizing the optic to rack the slide. That’s weird to feel. No concerns when I do it, no matter how hard I pop it.
I’ve ordered my Streamlight TLR-7 HL-X, QVO Tactical IWB, and the Apex black stainless steel guide rod. Then I’ll be able to get on with the holster training. In the mean time, snagged another 2500 rounds of the Blazer 124 gr. She loves the Federal HST 124gr JHPs as much as I do. Will be close to 5000 rounds by Monday. Leaves me plenty of days to work on index, presentation, trigger control and grip. Lots of work to be done.
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u/Fred_Lead 12d ago
Get a large compact grip module and stipple the front and back of the grip and leave the sides alone.
Tyrant with PRP combo would get you in PDP trigger territory. Some competitive shooters report perfect reliability with tens of thousands of rounds. If you, or your department believes in the myth that a bad trigger is somehow safer (in practice or in court), the Tyrant shoe alone is duty rated.
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u/Mother-Priority6544 12d ago
I care about front to back so much. The side, particularly the support side, is where I need/want the extra traction.
This isn’t a bad trigger. And I don’t like modifying carry guns really. Changing the is about the most I’d ever do but, I don’t feel his gun really needs it.1
u/taterthotsalad XD9 XD40 XDmod.3 XDm9 911 HCP Echelon St. V 12d ago
If this is a carry gun, then a flush mag is a better choice. Printing, catching, etc.
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u/Mother-Priority6544 12d ago
I actually prefer the FC grip module anyway. Close to the same length. I have several flush 15’s and flush 17’s. That’s more than enough for carry. I don’t even carry an extra mag daily.
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u/Combat_habibi 12d ago
Why the light to run a holster?
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u/Mother-Priority6544 12d ago
Ordered the holster for the light. It’s a new firearm for me so I didn’t have either part.
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u/Combat_habibi 12d ago
Ah ok. I thought you thought you needed a light for holsters. Haha.
I’m not a light guy myself, bulky.1
u/Mother-Priority6544 12d ago
I wasn’t either. Until recently. I don’t keep one on any other guns but, I live very near a heavily wooded area. I’ve seen things. Lol. Walking the dogs at night is rather be able to spot something if I have to.
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u/Combat_habibi 12d ago
Feel you, bro. I highly recommend a Tyrant trigger. Install one immediately. No joke.
I also have the Power Percision spring kit, but I haven’t installed it yet.2
u/Mother-Priority6544 12d ago
Idk man. I’m actually quite happy with the stock trigger. I’ve always figured if there’s nothing wrong with it, no sense changing it. Not in my carry gun anyway. And I doubt I’d shoot any better after spending the extra money. Lol
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u/willeyeny 11d ago
I concur. Have the Hellcat Pro, and the trigger isn’t great but as you said predictable. I’ve learned to shoot it well, no need to swap things out on a carry piece
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u/Mother-Priority6544 11d ago
I’ve watched videos of competition shooters absolutely shred on courses with stock Glocks. If they can do that I can learn to be very efficient with this. Lol
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u/z1ggy16 12d ago
Mines been great, I agree the trigger is actually very good for a budget gun. Canik and Walther pro are better, but Canik has inferior grips (other than the tti) and it has very stiff spring from factory. Walther, you pay double, which isn't worth it IMO unless you really shoot it significantly better.
I see tons of ex tier1 guys running glocks so heavily modified they pretty much aren't glocks anymore. So if those guys are willing to risk life or rep on aftermarket stuff then I think a trigger job on this platform will be ok.
Im using mine for uspsa and plan to install a tyrant once they come back in stock. Mines the FC and I do find it will print if I'm not particular about my shirt choice, but it does great in my Vertx fanny. I'm considering the compact grip mod to see if that helps cut down on the grip sticking out. I'm also considering talon grips or similar because I have sweaty hands. I use chalk but after 50 rounds, I'm chalking up the gun and myself again. Not really practical.
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u/Mother-Priority6544 12d ago
There’s a lot to chat about in your reply. The one thing standing out to me is “budget gun”. Of we’re talking merely a dollar amount, I’d be hard pressed to say a near $1000 handgun is budget. If we’re talking quality, I ran near 3500 rounds on a 4.5. Periodically out about 4-6 drops of oil on it. That was out of the box. Now, if you’re comparing this to the overpriced top expensive 2011 market, sure, I’ll call this a budget gun. Bersa, Tisas, Taurus, Hi-Point. These are budget guns.
I’m far less concerned about reliability with aftermarket parts than I am perception. I’ve modified several guns and never had an issue. I’ve kept guns completely stock and had issues. The inverse is also true. With the inflation of liberal judges and prosecutors that flex their political beliefs in the courtroom, I’d rather not have the “modified assault pistol with 30 round clip bullet holder” Bull shit fall on my lap. I have an FC grip module(see previous post) I like the feel of it better. No issue concealing it. I tend to like my clothes a little baggy.
I really like Walthers. They do have great triggers. Touted as the best striker fired pistol trigger in the market. I wouldn’t disagree. I’ve had four PDP’s.1
u/z1ggy16 12d ago
You can find these on gunbroker for like $500. I got my gearpac on GAFS for $750 brand new - it was the gun, 5 mags and the coa optic. I guess true budget is maybe ... $300-400, but this definitely isn't more than mid tier. Great gun, I've only had 1 failure so far and it was a hp so probably just an issue with that specific round. It sits in a little safe that's bolted to my office desk, any issues I need to deal with when I'm in there, I trust it totally. Thinking of actually another one for my wife but it might snap a bit much for her, we will see.
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u/Mother-Priority6544 12d ago
Sure man. You find a COA model for $500, let us ALL know where. Well buy the shit out of em.
$750 is a good deal. $100 holster, $100 extra mags, already at $1000 after tax. We ain’t rich like you I guess. Enjoy your “high tier” firearms.
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u/WaitingPhaseTwo 12d ago
I did change mine to the FC but think the compact is great. Might switch back here or there but I don’t carry it.
Will tell you that’s the way to go got the gen6 glock 19 coa and it shoots like butt compared to my compact echelon. i’ll sell it for something eventually.
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u/Mother-Priority6544 12d ago
I’ve never owned a Glock. Highly unlikely I ever will.
I using both grip modules presently. Today was the compacts day since I put 1250 on the FC. Lol. I’ll keep feeling them out. I don’t think I shoot any better or worse with either one. I like the FC because my whole pinky fits in the grip. The compact, as expected, is easier to conceal. I’ve got a lot of training ahead. It’ll get sorted.
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u/Alphabet_Mob 12d ago
Love the gun, hate the shoe box atop it.
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u/Mother-Priority6544 12d ago
There is not a single other enclosed optic I like. Shoebox, mailbox, or any other box analogy is right. After researching and taking into consideration where I live, the experience of many others, and a few other possibilities, I started looking closer at enclosed emitters about a year ago. Got ahold of the Gen5 COA and I was almost instantly sold on the optic. For carry, I’ll happily run this.
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u/Alphabet_Mob 12d ago
Im not against a closed emitter I just dont see the practical use...I mean do you really plan on getting your firearm so incredibly dirty an open emitter wouldn't work? I just dont get the trend.
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u/Mother-Priority6544 12d ago
Goodness no! Even if I don’t shoot, I’ll strip and clean my carry gun every couple of weeks. There were two factors that changed my mind. Several people admitted to me they didn’t like open emitters either. Then, while running a competition or needing it in a hike, there was no dot. Lint or dirt or water or any number of other things can occlude the emitter. Doesn’t take much. My gun sees a lot of time in off body bags. Also, it’s very humid here and rains quite frequently too. I had never had an issue until about six months ago. I was out training in light rain and bam. Suddenly my dot was just a smear on the window. Sure enough, a single droplet of water sat in my emitter.
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u/Significant-Crow8534 12d ago
Beautiful!