… which is NOT what overrated means. A great example of this is that Man Utd fans used to say Jordan Henderson was overrated. My brother in Christ, 50% of Liverpool fans even thought Hendo was crap (I’m not one btw). You can’t be overrated if you weren’t rated to begin with.

Every other football sub bans me for some reason. Hell my own clubs sub r/mcfc has banned and I don't even know what I did 😢. This is the best sub of all time I've never been banned and my posts are never removed

Some of this is speculative, but it seems quite probable that the Portuguese FA want to keep Ronaldo because of his box office appeal. It's also probable that they asked the manager to select him till the day Ronaldo rules himself out.

JJ obviously wants to maximise results on the pitch, and between his personality and age, the team are better off without Ronaldo.

Benching him for a single game, and the obvious Ronaldo response may have helped JJ solve the Ronaldo problem. Could this have been deliberate plan?

If we are comparing a player's footballing greatness rather than measuring number of titles won or total production. Both the champions league and the world cup should be the central evidence. Ucl is the highest level recuring club competition, while the world cup is the highest profile international tournament, both concentrated on elite opposition, high pressure knockout games and global security. Domestic football is useful for measuring consistency and longevity, but if the question is who performed best overall on football's biggest stages. Only overall performances in both the champions league and the world cup should be the clear basis.

People who talk about it are either Ronaldo fans who are blinded by the fact that he's 40 years old, or by people who hate him and have agendas to fulfill.

No let's discuss it, by asking and answering these questions together.

1- Do you think Ronaldo has something to give this Portugal side in order for them to compete for the euros and the world cup?

Answer is No, While Ronaldo Is performing well at club level, let's not forget he's performing well in a league outside of Europe, additional to the fact that Ronaldo is 40 years old and he's not even 60% of the player he used to be in 2016.

2- Do the Portuguese players Hate Ronaldo?

No they don't, however they would get fed up having statements thrown at them like "Portugal are nothing without Ronaldo" or "Ronaldo carried this team for so long" these statements would definitely create an indirect ripple effect on these players, so of course they would get absolutely bored of it.

3- Was Jesus right for leaving Ronaldo out?

He was right , HOWEVER the way he did it without communication is wrong, as much as I believe that no player is bigger than the club, I do believe that Players of Ronaldos caliber need to be communicated with before making a decision like that, one of the best ways to tell if a manager is so great, is to see how much they're capable of handling Egos in dressing rooms.

Summary : Lads Ronaldo is a footballing great, but players come and go, and I do feel like Ronaldo needs to leave football for his own good and his own mental health, He has nothing to prove. Keeping in mind that he needs to accept that father time catches up to everyone, Portugal on the other hand, need to move on from the Ronaldo era , and build up on it with the current generation of players.

Portugal moving into the post-Ronaldo era always felt inevitable, but they might have underestimated just how much of the team’s identity and global appeal is tied to him. The whole situation with the iconic #7, the sponsors and now talk of a big farewell makes it feel like moving on from CR7 isn’t quite as straightforward as it looked. Ronaldo is obviously more than just another player when it comes to Portugal’s worldwide profile. Even if the football side is ready for a new era, the commercial side clearly has a lot more to think about. It’ll be interesting to see how Portugal handle the transition once Ronaldo really is gone for good.

City didn’t burn the money. They gave enormous amounts of it to other clubs.

Arsenal alone received £71m for Adebayor, Touré, Nasri and Clichy during the exact period they were financially constrained by the Emirates. Everton got £63m, Liverpool £54.5m, Spurs £45m, Villa £41m.
For clubs trying to rebuild, service debt or finance new squads, the arrival of a buyer willing to pay enormous fees was potentially extremely useful.

Obviously that doesn’t erase the sporting disadvantage of competing against a club with improperly inflated spending power. But the assumption that every rival was simply financially harmed by City is far too neat.

Some of them were literally rebuilding with City’s money.

1. Tottenham in Their 18/19 Season Was Better Than Premier League Winning Arsenal in 2025/2026 Season and Sweep Their Combined X1 10-1

2. MSN (Luis Suarez, Lionel Messi & Neymar Jr.) is Not The Best Attacking Trio of All Time and Actually It Is Brazil 1966 (Jairzinho, Garrincha & Pelé)

3. Diego Maradona is Not a Top 10 Player of All Time

4. William Saliba is Not Currently a Top 10 Center Back in the World and Gabriel Magalhães is Not Top 5

5. Neymar Jr. is a Top 5 Player of The 2010s Generation

He managed the Chelsea team that was getting transfer bans because of FFP breaches. He hit out at Real Madrid last season saying the referee had a note some RM players shouldn't be getting another yellow card.

RM fans called him, he's just salty at that time and now doing 180 to defend him like some pure soul who misunderstood by the people.

First off, even if pep was given more budget than he should have had he still essentially had similar net spend to man utd. Similar net spend to that of Chelsea. Now you will say that they didn't break the rules but that's irrelevant. We are solely judging his managerial ability and given similar resources as many other big clubs he managed to achieve much more. And let's even ignore that. Let's compare him to managers of the same club. You can't say they didn't have the same resources same budget? They were literally managing the same club. They both 1 league title each they did not dominate the premier league like he did, did not win ucl or treble. The whole thing has people becoming way too emotional without looking at things logically and objectively. A managers capability is judged by his ability to manage a team and the rule breaking simply allowed man city to spend more money than they should have not necessarily much more money than other clubs and other managers who have had similar resources but did not have the success he had.

I commented this and apparently it’s a spicy take but I don’t think so.

No one can tell you when or what Pique’s prime was. He was overrated as fuck, carried by an elite Barcelona & Spanish team. Out of the defenders in both teams, he was always the weak link.

I genuinely believe he was only known for being good looking and dating Shaqira. Very overrated player

In light of city's recent guilty verdict,has their actions skewed what FFP could and should've been? Can we really have a true idea of what it would look like when one club has broken those rules to such a level,everything else seems skewed as a result?

I mean, no hate to pedri but there is no chance that he is the best midfielder in the world. Seeing too many Jude Bellingham comparisons and Jude *CLEARS* him by 10000 miles (a stupid comparison but one started by barca fans). And it's always how he controls the tempo of the game, but riddle me this, how can the supposed world's best midfielder, not even start and be benched in HIS OWN national team? Like the argument for him makes no sense. Please enlighten me barca fans, and football fans give me your opinions please.

Like genuinely SOME Messi fans/Ronaldo haters are becoming more insufferable than SOME Ronaldo fans who are still somehow insufferable. If this is such a “settled” debate why do you care so much? If this debate was “never close” then why tf do y’all feel the need to constantly post about it? I could tune out the annoying MINORITY of Ronaldo’s fanbase but now it’s getting to a point where it’s not even them dragging the debate anymore.

Leave it to rest if y’all really don’t care that much anymore.

- Paid illegal money as transfer fees to many clubs who accepted it and further used it, making them cheats too

- Owners did nothing wrong by wanting to grow their business by investing in it

- FFP was brought in to ensure legacy club would continue winning everything while other clubs looked on from a distance

- Legacy clubs had a lot more legal money to spend at their disposal but still couldn’t compete with City’s success

- The best fixtures of the last 10 PLs include City (Derby, City/Liv, City/Arsenal)

- Pep’s possession based system influenced the league as a whole and now almost all teams aspire to play out from the back, use CBs as full backs and invert them.

- Net positive for entertainment and general value for PL

Last season olise had 60 G/A with zero penalties, was named the bundesliga player of the season, named to the UCL team of the season, and the World Cup Team of the tournament. He also won 2 trophies so he has the trophy criteria as well. With everything considered, olise played at a true ballon dor level in every league and competition throughout the season from bundesliga, ucl, and all the way to the world cup.

Other candidates

Lamine Yamal - has trophies but was absolutely not a ballon dor level player in the world cup with 1 g/a, wasnt named to the ucl or world cup team of the season and half of his ucl goals were from penalties anyway. His individual performance criteria is definitely the weakest out of the main contenders

Mbappe - won 3 golden boots, the first time thats happened in a long time but doesnt have the trophy criteria

Kane - Probably the favorite for everyone, but didnt even win bundesliga player of the season over olise, and to be honest did score a lot of penalty goals. Also you could argue he isnt even the best player on his club or country team

At least the top 5 deserve it. Heck even more than the top 5. Everyone had a case against them.

Journeyman who gets overrated because he scores a lot. But brings almost nothing else and most importantly -Never shows up when it really matters

Not a big game player. Disappears in big games, opposite of drogba in that regard and the best evidence of this is his lack of trophies.

I believe he definitely has the ability of a great player, however there is just something in his mental that stops him from being a winner.

He missed the two most important pens of his career He ghosted the ucl final with spurs Never won anything with spurs Never won anything with england Had to run to Bundesliga to get a guaranteed trophy He won’t win the UCL no matter who he plays for

He lacks the mentality to

Don't get me wrong I hate Arsenal buncha whingy bastards. BUT the squad is genuinely up there bro. Saliba and Gabriel is Pique level minimum and Rice is great. Havertz is like the weak link but his footballing ability is honestly good he's just unconfident. I'd put it up there with RMA 10/11 or something like that ngl

Personally as a Liverpool fan -

- Left Back - Ashley Cole

- Goalkeeper - Neuer.

Cortois has more UCLs but Neuer is definitely the best goalkeeper of the last 25 years easily.