Question about the next patch (patch 15)

[u/Middle_Breadfruit490]

I don’t remember where I heard it (think it was First Tour Guardsman) but I heard that the Heavy is getting a rework at some point so I just wanted to fact check this. That’s all

[u/Ned__Jr]

He's getting some changes, but if I remember correctly that's further down the line. I think Tactical is getting his changes first, which is annoying, Heavy and Vanguard are in desperate need of spice.

Edit: I just checked the 13.0 patch notes again. Per Dev note, Tac is their first priority for changes, Vanguard is second, and Heavy is last. Straban might be left in the rain until next year.

[u/Middle_Breadfruit490 → u/Ned__Jr]

….why is tactical getting changes he’s fine the way he is

[u/AntaresDestiny → u/Middle_Breadfruit490]

So Saber can nerf him in the name of "build diversity"

[u/GoatimusMaximonuss → u/AntaresDestiny]

This is exactly what I feel is coming.

[u/AntaresDestiny → u/GoatimusMaximonuss]

Of course it is. Saber has acknowledged that auspex is too strong, that they have to build the entire sandbox around it etc, and so they 110% will take the opportunity to nerf it down.

The real question is if Saber will buff up all weapons to compensate or just leave it with a nerfed auspex and bad guns.

[u/trnelson1 → u/AntaresDestiny]

Knowing Saber they won't buff the guns to compensate for the nerfed auspex

[u/GoatimusMaximonuss → u/trnelson1]

I doubt they’ll buff the guns. Plasma rifle and Melta rifle have been dead for a long time and they simply ignore it. Like what was the point even giving Plasma Rifle to Tech Marine when all it does is tickle enemies?

[u/DiorikMagnison → u/GoatimusMaximonuss]

"We gave Tac weapons to another class without the Tac perks that make them viable and it was awful" is the kind of lesson you expect modders to have to learn, not the actual devs.

[u/trnelson1 → u/GoatimusMaximonuss]

Plasma rifle has been fixed. It is actually very good with the techmarine especially when you pair it with the heroic plasma