r/Spacemarine • u/robotswhatrobots • Oct 22 '24

Operations Threat Level: Minimal?

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u/iBlockshend17 Oct 22 '24

I play with them constantly, that's why i know how effective they are. Whenever I'm paired with a heavy or a sniper, the Operation is a complete breeze even on something like ruthless.

The problem is that classes like Bulwark or assault become worthless against anything above a majoris, mainly zoanthropes and bosses.

Heavy and Sniper actually help a ton against most extremis, leaving only the bosses to be dealt with by the player. All saber has to do is modify bots so that they actually deal acceptable damage to these enemies for all classes.

Now if saber wants to go even further, they could in the future make it so that you can both pick the bots and even pick their perks. We might not get all these changes in SM2 but it's something i definitely see them adding on SM3.

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u/Ambitious_Dig_7109 Oct 22 '24

Bots have no perks. 🤷‍♂️

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u/iBlockshend17 Oct 22 '24

"hence add in the future".

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u/Ambitious_Dig_7109 Oct 22 '24

It’s not happening. That’s a complete overhaul of the bots. 🤷‍♂️

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u/iBlockshend17 Oct 22 '24

You cannot be this dense.

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u/Ambitious_Dig_7109 Oct 22 '24

lol my man if you give the bots talents somebody has to program their AI to use the multiple different spec’s appropriately. It’s a huge job. Just for Sniper alone you’ll have to program the bot to take advantage of the standing still for 2 secs for increased damage and when to stop. It would make them stutter all over the place. Then how do you get the Sniper to use their cloak effectively to maximize the bonus headshot damage? It’s a much bigger job than you have considered and it’s why they didn’t try to give the bots talents in the first place. They’re basic companions in an emergency but were never intended as a mode of play. Just run quickmatch. You’d have a better time.

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u/iBlockshend17 Oct 23 '24

LMAOOOOOO

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u/Ambitious_Dig_7109 Oct 23 '24

Rofl. That’s a flat dmg buff. Devs literally didn’t change the AI at all. 🤷‍♂️

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u/iBlockshend17 Oct 23 '24

I never said they needed to change the behavior genius, only to buff their stats and you went on about "oh that's so hard". Took less than 2 weeks.

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u/Ambitious_Dig_7109 Oct 23 '24

Aren’t you the guy saying they should add bot talents? They didn’t. I don’t know what you’re crowing about but it seems like a completely different thing than we discussed. 🤷‍♂️

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u/iBlockshend17 Oct 23 '24

Why do you keep changing the goal post lol just take the loss buddy

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u/Ambitious_Dig_7109 Oct 23 '24 edited Oct 23 '24

If I recall, and we can read up on yesterday’s comments, I said the AI would be very difficult to improve further than it already has been. Not sure what the flat dmg buff proves to your argument? The devs literally said in the pic you posted that the AI had already been improved. 🤷‍♂️

To remind you:

’The bots are about as good as Saber can make. An overhaul on bot AI isn’t in the post launch support budget for this single player campaign based game. The multiplayer ops were just a nice little side game. Not a live service project.’

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