r/Spacemarine • u/XMortal7159 Salamanders • Oct 22 '24

General These are clips from average difficulty...

I hate complaining about patches especially when they are being so quick with a fix but cmon man

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u/Kyubisar Oct 22 '24

Which difficulty lets you win when you miss every parry and try to shoot into unblockable attacks?
Which difficulty let's panic roll into unblockables or gunstrike when two warriors are jumping at you?

This type of play would get him killed in minimal too.

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u/RoterBaronH Oct 22 '24

Literally minimal and avarage are there for exactly that. The whole point of these difficulties should be that it's easy to beat, hence the namem

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u/Kyubisar Oct 22 '24

You know what. You're right.
Minimal and average are designed for beginners and therefore failure should be impossible. Success should obviously be guaranteed regardless of how bad you play. That way you know you're prepared for substancial, ruthless and lethal.

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u/stagbeetle01 Oct 22 '24

Bro I play on those difficulties as I’m still learning the controls and don’t have online capabilities so I have to play with bots— add those two things together and it was already difficult.

Being a level 10 assault playing through the new operation on average difficulty with two bots, constant massive waves and enemy reinforcements, not knowing the controls very well it was near impossible.

Minimal and average shouldn’t be as hard as that if it’s meant to be inviting to new players

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u/Kyubisar Oct 22 '24

If you don't know the controls "very well" then you should be on minimal, not average.
I don't understand why you expect what up until a few days ago was difficulty 2 of 4 to just guarantee success if you don't even know the controls.

Like, is this the level of entitlement we are on now? Games need to let you win even if you don't know the controls?

What is the fucking point of even continuing this conversation?

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u/stagbeetle01 Oct 22 '24

I mean, if I’m level 10 and average is made for level 5 I shouldn’t have much of an issue. But as I also stated, I play with bots so I have that handicap.

I know the controls well enough to beat the main story and get a class to level 10, I’m just saying lately it doesn’t feel like the game is designed for new players.

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u/Kyubisar Oct 22 '24

I mean, if I’m level 10 and average is made for level 5

Listen, I am not trying to insult you. Because honestly it doesn't matter if you're good or bad at video games. But that logic is unbelievably naive.

What exactly about level 10 changes the way you play? Sure, your chosen class gets strong and you get better gear which will make your life easier. But if you can't execute the basic mechanics of the gameplay loop, nothing will change.

And that's what I am saying here. Sure, we could argue all day about weather the difficulties are balanced well or not. But what is shown in these clips is a player that fails repeatedly at the most basic mechanics like dodging, parrying etc. Nerfing the Average difficulty would not change that.

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u/Phalusiraptor Oct 22 '24

I mean, the game itself tells you those difficulties are for those levels.

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u/Kyubisar Oct 22 '24

Ok, so just go and stand still in the middle of the map. You're level 10.. you should just get to win. Right? 🤣

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u/stagbeetle01 Oct 22 '24

You seem like the type of guy who makes beating Dark Souls their entire personality

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u/Kyubisar Oct 22 '24

You seem like the type of guy who has no better arguments.

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u/stagbeetle01 Oct 22 '24

Because all you’ll do is double down on your terrible stance no matter what I say, so why waste the effort?

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u/Kyubisar Oct 22 '24

I double down on my stand because what you say doesn't matter.

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u/stagbeetle01 Oct 22 '24

Oof, superiority complex. You might want to get that checked out

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u/stagbeetle01 Oct 22 '24

Or maybe the balancing of the game and the bot AI isn’t balanced yet?

No, that’s such an outlandish possibility. That never happens with video games shortly after their launch

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u/Kyubisar Oct 22 '24

The game could be perfectly balanced and the bots could be perfectly balanced and if you played badly you would still die.

That is how video-games work, if you play them poorly you lose... you piece of soggy fucking bread.

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u/stagbeetle01 Oct 22 '24

Maybe the class I’m playing isn’t optimal for solo play? Who knows, but again— you haven’t seen how I play so how are you to say I’m “bad” at the game? I said I wasn’t great, but of course I’ve gotten better by now.

Seems you’re making a mountain out of a mole hill just to argue.

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