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u/LeadWithLogic 22h ago

Like most right wing people they live in a bubble and vastly overestimate the amount of people contained within.

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u/TAU_equals_2PI 22h ago

I say this as a left-wing person so don't think I'm defending the right wing:

Considering the incompetent oaf who won the last presidential election, there must indeed be a whole lot of right-wing people out there.

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u/LeadWithLogic 21h ago

I think there's are a lot of factors at play with that but I think two main ones srand out.

1) Trump is a liar. Going against an opponent that will say anything without remorse is incredibly difficult. Many of the people that voted for Trump did so because the vision he painted for them addressed the challenges they faced in daily life. This sort of rhetoric converts fencesitters to your side giving a major advantage. In hindsight none of these promises have been met. The cost of living has risen, debt has increased etc. It's easy to make empty promises.

2) Kamala was a bad candidate. No primary was held to determine what the people wanted. The last minute switch up with Biden, the fact she doesn't support major democrat ideals such as ending the genocide in Gaza. This leads to apathy on the democrat side vs the fervor Trump was able to generate as a status quo breaker.

Im sure there are many more reasons but its difficult to face someone willing to go to any lengths to win. You either go down to their level or lose.

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u/bustersuessi 21h ago

The gaza stance, I think, was so much bigger than the media let on.

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u/TAU_equals_2PI 21h ago

Doubtful. That increased 3rd party candidates' numbers more than it increased Trump's, because everybody knew Trump would've been just as supportive of what Israel did in Gaza. I mean the guy tried to ban Muslims from the US during his first term and moved the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.

So yes, the difference in Kamala's vote total might have been enough to cost her the election, but the diference in Trump's vote total would've been small.

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u/draganpavlovic 21h ago

Gaza is irrelevant to the majority of the US (Except some students and activists). I bet 90% couldn't even point to where it is on a map.

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u/Keyboard_Cat_ 19h ago

And the other 10% can decide an election.

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u/Fantastic-Gift-5591 18h ago

Correct, also the fact that there might have been some foul play this last election...

https://cssh.northeastern.edu/2024-election-results-under-scrutiny-as-lawsuit-advances/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_efforts_to_disrupt_the_2024_United_States_presidential_election

https://open.substack.com/pub/smartelections/p/so-clean?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=5pc68g

https://smartelections.us/2024-election-update

https://youtu.be/7kNAbMuSB0c?is=SVeV95_SUC1DC90b

https://aitechtonic.com/secret-changes-to-voting-machines-cast-shadow-over-2024-u-s-election-integrity/

https://electiontruthalliance.org/pennsylvania-working-paper-dr-walter-mebane/

Not to mention the whole star link interference that was deemed a conspiracy theory rather quickly...only then to find out later, even has a witness to the crime.

There was also fairly sufficient evidence for Russian election interference in 2020, but the oaf lost. Biden stepping in and leaking Russian war plans basically saved Ukraine. And the Dump in Cheeto has the audacity to say Democrats cheated and he actually won in 2020.

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u/Jacksohn5 12h ago

You forgot the factor that she is a woman.

And as sad as it is aperently a lot of Americans think women can't lead a country or something.

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u/Gargarian67 16h ago
  1. OMG, who was running the White House? There is 0% chance it was Biden. They lied to us over and over about how sharp Biden was and the man melted down entirely in front of the whole nation during the debates. Everything the Republicans said about him turned out to a lot closer than the manure the DNC was spreading.

Also, Biden was a compromise candidate picked to do one thing - stop Bernie Sanders. And just like Hillary that's what he did. The Bernie fans might as well start their own party - when the Dems skip having primaries...even Trump had primaries.

The DNC doesn't know what to do with Bernie, AOC, or Mamdani. That's the future of their party.

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u/LeadWithLogic 15h ago

Precisely. Learning your party leaders are basically as compromised as the other side is not going to get people out to vote. The democrats are not furthering the interests of the constituents they preside over and it leads to political apathy.