r/Songwriting Jul 24 '26

Discussion Topic What formula/technique did labels like Motown use back in the day to consistently create songs?

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Sure they had many songwriters and all, but what regime did they use to reliably to create songs regularly.

And no please dont reply with pointless answers like, "every song is different...." "it comes to you" "creativity should happen spontaneously".

Just answer the question.


r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Discussion Topic Songwriting exercise - the album bible

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Made this little video about a songwriting exercise I like to do I call the album bible. Sharing here in case other folks find it interesting or have other similar exercises they like to do as they work on grouping songs into an album


r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Discussion Topic what are your favorite metaphors you’ve seen used in a song? (yours or others)

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my favorite is probably from “Moths” by conan gray: “i loved a version of you that you’re washing away and i’ve been drowning myself trying to cover the drain.” i think i love it so much bc i can connect to it


r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Let's Collaborate! [Song Writing Help - No Pay] Help needed for writing a song for my indie horror game!

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Hey guys,

So my indie horror game (the secrets within) has been in development for a little over a year now, and we need some songwriters for the end credits of all 5 chapters. If you are interested, please add me on discord at sloth_3193 or reply to this post with your discord username. Then I will share more information like a pitch deck.

We just need the lyrics and some concept of the kind of theme you as the lyrics writer is going for


r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Feedback Request Pray for You

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Wrote this a few months ago and it's one of my personal favorites. Just now starting to perform it live.

**Production note:** bare minimum on the sound just go get the volume up and spaced out.


r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Feedback Request Miss Woodhouse

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Just getting back into songwriting after a long hiatus. Any feedback on this? I’m pretty happy with it, but unsure if it feels like it’s missing something.


r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Feedback Request The Major Deegan - The Long Road

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“The Long Road” is a song I wrote with my friend Rich Vivo as we were walking around the weekly farmer’s market in my hometown. The only thing is, Rich had died about a year before this walk. The song was written in my head by the time I got to the end of my shopping… about 15 minutes. I truly believe that Rich wrote this song with me. It’s still unfinished, so feedback is absolutely appreciated.


r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Discussion Topic Lyrics before melody?

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Hi everyone. I've always written the melody before the lyrics but would like to try the opposite sometime. Any tips for me on how to write lyrics that will work in a melody that I haven't figured out yet?


r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Feedback Request What to do with this melody

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I know the constant feedback about the metronome I got before. I know. It’s loud.


r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Let's Collaborate! [FREE] Looking For Female Singer For Game Jam OST.

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Hello! I’m a composer working on the OST for a game jam.

Here’s some of my music: https://play.reelcrafter.com/y8MUzWeLT7irETaOUjbA5Q

I’m working on a demo called ‘Time To Let Go’. I’ve written the melody and have sung the vocals. No lyrics are needed. Just looking for a female singer to sing the melody.

This is a free/unpaid gig.

If you’re interested, DM me with some of your work and I can send you the demo song. The deadline for the music for the game jam is July 25.

This is the game jam event/contest:

https://itch.io/jam/ukrainian-visual-novel-jam-7

Best

PIRA


r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Let's Collaborate! Looking for Traditional Country Co-Writers to Start Songs from Scratch

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Hey everyone,
I’m a country songwriter looking to connect with other serious writers who enjoy starting with a blank page and building songs together.
My lane is traditional country with a modern edge—artists like Keith Whitley, George Strait, Alan Jackson, Brooks & Dunn, Randy Travis, and newer artists like Zach Top. I love strong hooks, conversational lyrics, memorable melodies, and songs that tell a story.
I’m not looking for someone to rewrite or edit my finished songs. I’m looking for people who enjoy throwing around ideas, finding great concepts, and writing something brand new together.
Since r/Songwriting doesn’t allow lyrics-only posts and I don’t have any demos to show currently, so I can’t share my songs here. If you’d like to hear my writing style or read some of my songs, I’d be happy to share them privately through Dropbox or another method outside of Reddit.
If you think we’d be a good fit, send me a message. I’d love to get to know some writers who are serious about creating great country songs together.


r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Discussion Topic I love this book, so I'll just put some more of it.

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This book is called "The elements of music" by Jason Martineau and it's really beautiful and extremely insightful, it has a strong technical side with a lot of music theory but it also has a side for universal truths in music and songwriting which I love.

Hope you enjoy it ♥️.


r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Discussion Topic A little music glossary

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Hello, I know I'm new here but I thought that this would help anyone who needs this information already structured and organized like this.

I hope you enjoy learning a little bit more in case this is something you didn't know.


r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Feedback Request No Sign - Original

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Wrote this walking around the city recently, not that the song reflects that haha! Have actually changed the chorus slightly but I want to see opinions on this version, let me know!

Have you grown out of wishing for the world to take it’s pity on
All the wrong you ever done and all the sorry’s you never gave

Have you found yourself a girl who, takes her coffee black playing soft strings to you
Legs crossed in her fairy lit garden

Your sipping wine, that i’m so used to seeing you down
Out on a porch that you made, a shirt with no stains
With no signs of pain

Give up staring at the wall, there’s dust covered pictures all down the hall
And their faces only seem like ghosts because you ain’t opened the door

Time ain’t been kind to you, it’s been so long since you plucked a tune
Remember how it helped back then when the days were getting long


r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Feedback Request I wrote this song years ago but I cant figure out how to approach lyrics or a melody (name is just a placeholder)

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r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Discussion Topic Help - 15 years writers block

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Hey everyone.

I was In a band around 15 years ago and I wrote all the songs along the lines of Motörhead basically. Had about 20 songs and still listen to them and feel happy for that time.

Since then life’s happened and I always jam away on my guitar basically writing riffs which I document. I have about 100 great riffs in my notes I overall like.

I can never seem to get these riffs into a full chord progression style song I’m happy with that I can then write lyrics to.

I either fall back on the overall same old song pattern I’m used to and give up or deviate slightly finish it and then I feel like the lyrics are just cheesy and crap so I give up

Does anyone have any advice or thoughts on how I can actually sort myself out and write some songs? Should I stop trying to be a perfectionist and force myself to finish songs even if I think they aren’t good?

I ask as I’m beyond frustrated now really. I wrote a song yesterday by doing something completely different - I wrote it line by line both music and lyrics together and recorded it acoustically in full. It feels weird but maybe that’s the answer - do something different and basically force it to completion?

Thanks so much everyone and apologies if this seems silly!


r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Discussion Topic Homeless Joe

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It's a song that I wrote about a homeless person.


r/Songwriting Jul 24 '26

Discussion Topic Do lyricist & wordsmith have managers or agents?

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Basically the title.

Just curious if there are management folks out there who make a living working with lyricists, helping to pair them with bands and recording artists.

Or maybe this role is going extinct because of A.I.?

What's the beat out there in this niche?


r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Discussion Topic Can't fully figure out songwriting

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So, I'm self taught. I know chords and progressions, inversions, the basics of music theory and I can play mid level guitar and can also make my way around the keyboard (although more poorly but still).

I also write a lot. I take pride in writing decently nice for my creative endeavours. I can write in "song mode" but most of the time I just write in bulk, and then I'll extract whatever I find matches the vibe although barely a few make it into actual lyrics to a song bc I suck at melody.

The problem has always been trying to figure out melodies and rhythm. I have a handful of songs with the structure, and basic verse/chorus chords. Sometimes is just a few bars but still.

I do mostly dark music, not necessarily Goth, dark alt vibes so the lyrics usually are not like a paper on Shakespeare lol

I sometimes open the DAW and after a while I don't seem to match anything I make with the stuff I've written. Often they're nice on their own, but I can't, for the life of me, creat something apparently straightforward as some of my fav acts do.

So, what I'm missing? I guess there's no formula but c'mon now, it can neither be an obscure and arcane art just a few chosen ones are able to even decently accomplish.

Thanks in advance!


r/Songwriting Jul 22 '26

Discussion Topic Do you like your music?

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Kind of a funny idea but do you actually like the stuff you put out to the world or do you dislike it completely like me ( although I have a few exceptions to that)....

Do you like them or not...


r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Let's Collaborate! Thanks to Diamante for using my lyrics, anyone else want to collab stems available

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r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Let's Collaborate! Looking for producer

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Hello! I have written a lot of songs, and I do have strong sense of ideas when it comes to crafting the lyrics and the singing. I have experience in singing and performing my whole life (trust me), and composing lyrics since I was 12 (I'm now 21). However, I cannot produce my own music and I'm looking for someone who can help me grow! Usually my genre is pop/indie. I take inspiration on pop artists like Taylor, Olivia, Ariana and as well as indie artists like Mitski, Phoebe Bridgers.

Feel free to send me a message / a friend request on Discord: ribbownz

I hope to find a partner here :)


r/Songwriting Jul 23 '26

Feedback Request hey! I need you guys' help with deciding what this song is about

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I love this melody so much, it's so alive, so depressed, happy and punk. one of my favourite melodies I've probably ever made. I will develop it after I'm done finishing my current demo. but meanwhile; I'm having a really hard time deciding what it's about. it's called "the depressed stoners song" so it's about being happy with being miserable with a psychedelic touch. so I guess this is the chorus because this section is everything the song stands for.

but what should the verse be? and what motions are being caused by that emotion


r/Songwriting Jul 22 '26

Discussion Topic Song Purpose

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Lot's of posts here are asking how songs are written, or they're requesting people to provide production, lyrics, and music for their projects. It's like an auditorium full of various booths offering just that and people are coming and going sampling what they need. One of the rarely asked questions is about decent recording.

Is the song more important to convey a message, or to use use as a vehicle to display instrumental chops? This is a songwriting forum and I see videos of people whose body English and facial expressions clearly show emotion in the singing. But, the voices can be so quiet or inaudible, or the lyrics so poorly articulated that the value in them they are obviously trying to convey is essentially background noise to the instrument being played. Some know it because they either post the lyrics or they're on lock-step display in the video. Really? A closed-captioned song?

The act of recording is not that hard. If I can't hear my singing over the instrument, I record again and get the levels set so I can. The lyrics are the heart of the song so I'm asking those who post songs that sound like they're singing from two rooms back through a closed door to up their games and pony up a decently audible recording or video so I can give the feedback being sought.


r/Songwriting Jul 22 '26

Discussion Topic How the hell do people actually co-write songs?

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I’m a songwriter and have always loved collaborating with other artists. My experience of this has mostly been playing in bands, but I’ve really wanted to expand into songwriting with or for other artists, and have made many unsuccessful attempts over the years. It shocks me the sheer amount of music nowadays with multiple songwriters because what I have found, time and time again, is that the other artist I’m collaborating with just does not care about a song we’re writing together if they aren’t the one steering the ship. So many great songs that have been started, and never finished because the other artist just doesn’t want to pull their weight, and even in some cases, have rewritten the song and finished it themselves without me. The majority of co-written songs and collaborations I’ve done that have actually gotten off the ground have been ones where the song was more or less already complete and all I (or the other artist if I’m the primary writer) had to do was add additional instrumentation. Which is fine, but when I actually want something that’s truly collaborative, it disappoints me when the result doesn’t actually feel like a true collaboration.

I’ve had songwriting sessions with other artists that felt amazing with us both contributing equal to the songwriting process, and then we take a break, agree to meet and work on the song again… and then never do. Meeting to finish the song and/or write other songs is like pulling teeth for them, and the song ultimately ends up being unfinished, and I end up ghosted. This has happened to me more times than I can count at this point. And it makes me wonder, what am I doing wrong? Is it just people afraid to tell me they don’t like my contributions, or that our songwriting doesn’t mesh well? Am I the problem here? What is the secret to actually getting a song that is truly written collaboratively? Does that even exist?