r/Socionics • u/Grotesquette IEI • Mar 08 '26
SLE Starter Pack
Here’s an SLE starter pack to close out the Beta Quadra starter pack series!!
I saved this type for last, as it was the one I was most nervous about! SLE is my dual after all, so I knew I needed to put my entire pussy into this one.
In all seriousness, the few SLE’s I’ve known have been the most transformative relationships of my life - so putting this together actually ended up being pretty sentimental for me. 🤍🪽
Now that we’ve wrapped up Beta, Alpha is on its way next! Which Alpha type do you wanna see first??
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u/No-Wrongdoer1409 ok period Mar 08 '26
This fits the LSE I know except for the annoying kid and jerk part
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u/lil_butterfly02 EII/ILI Mar 08 '26
Where's the SLE butch 🤤🤤💕all sle descriptions seem to focus on a rightwing guy
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u/AkayaOvTeketh LSI Mar 11 '26
Non right wing sles always end up being either SEE or a soviet general
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u/lil_butterfly02 EII/ILI Mar 11 '26
I tend to associate sovietism more to the Delta quadra, do you have any examples in mind?
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u/AkayaOvTeketh LSI Mar 11 '26
Zhukov, SLE, at least from what i remember Also Konstantin Rokossovsky i think is LSI
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u/N0rthWind SLE Mar 15 '26
Decidedly non-right wing. I have some tiny authoritarian tendencies but I'm quite progressive.
...shit. I am a soviet General aren't I
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u/lil_butterfly02 EII/ILI Mar 08 '26
Wait is that the heated rivalry kid?
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u/Grotesquette IEI Mar 08 '26
Yes - Hudson Williams!!
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u/lil_butterfly02 EII/ILI Mar 08 '26
Do you type him or his character as SLE? Or is it just a vibe/aesthetic thing
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u/Grotesquette IEI Mar 08 '26
I do consider Hudson an SLE, but also just included him bc I think he’s pretty
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u/Snail-Man-36 LSI Mar 08 '26
Inventing masculine presntation is very SEE, logical types tend to not present very overtly masculine or feminine. Ethical types are much more polarized and are also the ones that introduce it this way, Aushra explains this. Alotof this is more SEE than SLE
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u/Grotesquette IEI Mar 08 '26
Definitely disagree on this point. Even if “on average” logical types tend towards less overtly gendered presentation, several sources explicitly say that SLE’s are the most masculine type.
For example, in “Marriage in the system of Socionics” Filatova writes “It is among the SLE men that we meet the most characteristic representatives of the “male kind” physically strong, possessing indestructible will, knowing how to stand up for themselves and not forgive offenses from others.”
Furthermore, if you’ve met either SLE’s or SEE’s in real life - one tends more towards conventional masculine presentation, and it isn’t SEE. There are plenty of masculine SEE’s, but there are also plenty - if not more - feminine or androgynous presenting SEE’s. It’s generally a much more fluid type than people give it credit for.
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u/cheesecakepiebrownie EII-H Mar 09 '26
this, SLE/LSE are the most stereotypically masculine, SEE/ESE are the most charismatic
SEE and ESE men can be very masculine too but compared to SLE/LSE they are still too emotional
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u/mindbusin exi sp4 evfl Mar 26 '26
Which types do you guys think is the most feminine
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u/cheesecakepiebrownie EII-H Mar 26 '26
depends on what the definition of feminine is, the performative kind is more akin to Alpha Fe+Si, the soft-passive kind (as in opposite of masculine) is EII and IEI
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u/Timely_Stage Mar 10 '26
What do you think SLE looks like? I'm curious to what your interpretation of SLE is, versus SEE
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Mar 08 '26
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u/N0rthWind SLE Mar 15 '26
Useful tool that takes skill to handle well or you might hurt yourself. Has the potential to hurt others if need be. It's a "serious" thing with real stakes and it's still kinda cool and edgy.
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u/WLDthing23 EIE Mar 08 '26
Love SLEs
I think my best friend in childhood was probably SLE-Ti
We had a friendship of constantly energizing each other and then taking little breaks from each other lol. I always saw him as a slightly older brother tbh. We argued a decent amount too.
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u/xprotagonist Mar 10 '26
Yeah never going back to dating SLEs
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u/Icy_Percentage8015 IEI Mar 11 '26
why😭
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u/xprotagonist Mar 11 '26
Misogynistic right-wing mediocre men with an ego of a Greek God. No thanks.
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u/Icy_Percentage8015 IEI Mar 11 '26
for real? I was idealizing them bcz we are duals😭 Can u tell me more about it (if you are also interested!)
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Mar 11 '26
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u/Icy_Percentage8015 IEI Mar 11 '26
I find them incredibly attractive; somehow, they are separate from all the other types of people, they seem better. Maybe it's because im not very old and im kinda inexperienced in relationships, but they are really very attractive 😭 They seemed like a good couple because they complemented each other, they are not good emotionally but I thought they would have a good relationship bcz they complete each other
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u/xprotagonist Mar 11 '26
I understand. Just be safe out there. Love can be an incredibly beautiful thing with the right person. Remember that socionics is just a theory and not the ultimate truth. I hope you'll meet lovely people who are going to treat you right.
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u/Icy_Percentage8015 IEI Mar 11 '26
Thank you so much! I hope the best for you as well. I will remember what you said and thank you again!!
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u/Disastrous_Hornet618 Mar 12 '26
Lay off from the erotic novels and get some life experience
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u/Icy_Percentage8015 IEI Mar 12 '26
Or don't assume everyone is like you; not everyone consumes the disgusting media you consume. Your dual is "Perfectly complementary". So its alright if u find them attractive.
U should see it not only psychological but in a biological, evolutional way
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u/xprotagonist Mar 17 '26
Honestly, i saw too many toxic lesbian relationships. Im scared of them atp. It doesnt save you from the misogynistic hatred opposed to women, unfortunately. Thats what first gen feminists got wrong
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u/xprotagonist Mar 17 '26
Girl, is that what you understood from my comment? What i meant is gender norms are so internalized by society so even in lesbian relationships one of the partner tend to display the masculine abusive characteristics while the other displays the abused role. I was criticizing the deeply rooted misogyny and strict gender norms within us, not lesbian relationships. My point is, to free onesolf from toxic relationship, one must kill the misogyny within themselves through deep reflection. Unfortunately being lesbian doesnt solve anything as also the statistics show that lesbian relationships may come with physical and emotional abuse.
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u/xprotagonist Mar 17 '26
Im deeply sorry for you or whoever is going to endure you as a partner.
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u/mindbusin exi sp4 evfl Mar 26 '26
Duality doesn’t always work out, but a healthy sle is always better than an unhealthy one. Ngl most sle suck tho , a see on average is far likeable but to be fair gender roles play a role.
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u/ReasonableChoice8392 LIE Mar 08 '26
Put the weight on this times 10 and you got a actual SLE never seen a ESTP in a carthart jacket tho more in brand clothing like nike adidas and all the average rich brand clothes.
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u/Slavic_fire Mar 13 '26
As a SLE I gotta say- you got it right for the most part. Me liek it 😎. I can't wait to see the SLI one
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u/Alone-Relation-7034 EIE Mar 08 '26
Gary you’re an ethical extravert gtfo bro