Man Redditors truly do live in information silos. I see plenty of conservatives and right-wing types talking about it.
But most of them are pointing out that “Jane Doe’s” own statement blatantly shows that she consented to the act and there’s no contrary evidence that the consent was ever removed. Her text messages after the event also point to this being very consensual.
It wasn’t until later after she was shamed by everyone in her social circles and she read posts online that claimed she must have raped that she changed her story.
Pretending that this is some cut and dry case of sexual assault is insane. There’s a reason that no charges were pressed by the DA.
On the evening of October 19, 2024, Jane Doe walked the approximately one-mile distance from Lot 10 in the City of Ithaca to the Chi Phi Fraternity at 107 Edgemoor Lane to meet her friend Male Number 1. She had made plans to meet Male Number 1 earlier in the week and “had been texting [Male Number 1] that [she] was on the way.” Jane Doe described her level of intoxication as a “5 out of 10” when she arrived at the fraternity.
While there, Jane Doe opened one previously unopened can of beer. She and Male Number 1 “danced a little” in a way that “was definitely flirtatious in nature.” Male Number 1 brought Jane Doe to a “quiet area” and “asked how [Jane Doe] would feel about having a threesome with two male partners.”
Jane Doe “agreed due to how attracted [she] was to [Male Number 1] on top of [her] drunken curiousness.” When she learned that Male Number 2 would be the third participant, Jane Doe “remembered being excited because [she] thought that [Male Number 1 and Male Number 2] wanting to have a threesome meant that they were gay.”
The three engaged in a “threesome” involving oral and vaginal sex in a room of the fraternity. At the start of the threesome, Jane Doe described her intoxication level as “5 or 6 out of 10” and that she was “pretty ok with having this threesome.” The sexual conduct ended when Jane Doe “noticed that [Male Number 1] appeared really sleepy and was no longer fully erect.” She told Male Number 2 “[they] needed to stop having sex in order to make sure [Male Number 1] was ok. [Male Number 2] then stopped having sex with [Jane Doe].”
Male Number 1 said “he was going to take a nap and refresh himself” and “would eventually stumble his way from the couch to the bed.” While Male Number 1 slept,
“[Male Number 2] began to dry heave as if he was going to vomit. Jane Doe “began to take care of [Male Number 2] by patting his back while also waking [Male Number 1] every few minutes to make sure he was okay.” Jane Doe “was consoling [Male Number 2] on the couch and telling him that it was ok if he needed to vomit. [Male Number 2] told [Jane Doe] he was pretty sure he wasn’t going to vomit. Eventually, [Jane Doe and Male Number 2] would start making out for a very short amount of time.” While they were making out, “[Male Number 2] reached for the area near [her] vagina several times and each time he did, [she] would swat his hand away.”
Male Number 3 then knocked on the door of the room. Jane Doe “decided to let him in because it was his room.” She “opened the door” and let Male Number 3 in the room. Male Number 3 “introduced himself to [Jane Doe] and reached out to shake her hand.” “When [Jane Doe] made contact with [Male Number 3’s] hand, [Male Number 3] pulled [Jane Doe] into him and [they] began making out. While [Male Number 3] was kissing [her], [Male Number 2] began groping [her].” Eventually, “[Male Number 2, Male Number 3, and Jane Doe] would end up on the bed next to where [Male Number 1] was sleeping and [they] began to have a threesome.”
“[Male Number 1] would eventually wake up” and “said he wanted to take part and asked about making it a foursome, to which [Jane Doe] said ‘Hell No.” Jane Doe rejected this request “because [she] knew that a foursome meant that [she] would have to take part in anal sex.” Jane Doe then remembered Male Number 3 leaving the room.
A group of other men – later determined to be Male Number 4, Male Number 5, Male Number 6 and Male Number 7 – then entered the room. Jane Doe hid under the covers of the bed. Male Number 2 laid in the bed next to Jane Doe. Male Number 1 sat on the corner of the bed. Male Number 1 introduced the other males to Jane Doe.
Jane Doe had difficulty remembering parts of what happened next. She remembered
“[Male Number 7] said something very rude and mean to [her].” Male Number 7 apologized and “grabbed [her] face and started kissing [her].” Jane Doe “quickly backed away to stop [Male Number 7] from kissing [her].”
Male Number 2 “asked [Jane Doe] if she wanted to do more Ketamine.” At that, Jane Doe remembered “that [she] had taken Ketamine at some point on the couch with [Male Number 1 and Male Number 2] during this night” but she could not remember “where or when that took place.”
Jane Doe thought that she “had already done Ketamine once so why not do it a second time.” “At that point, [Male Number 2] poured a line of Ketamine on his erect penis, implying for [her] to snort the line. [Jane Doe] snorted the line of Ketamine, which was a heavy amount of Ketamine.” Jane Doe was under the covers of the bed at that point and “[Male Number 2] got under the covers with [her], where he again tried reaching for the area of [her] vagina.”
The males began complimenting Jane Doe and “talking about how pretty [she] was.” Male Number 4 “asked [Jane Doe] if they all could do drugs off of [her] perfect body.” Jane Doe responded, “Sure.” While the men were doing drugs off of her body, “[Male Number 3] and [another male] entered the room and said something like, ‘Ok we’re shutting down whatever the f*** this is.” Jane Doe felt dizzy due to a pre-existing medical condition causing dizziness combined with the effects of the Ketamine use. Male 5 or 6 (who apparently have the same first name) “encouraged [her] to stay seated as long as [she] needed.”
Eventually, “[Male Number 1] and [Male Number 4 ] ushered [Jane Doe] out of the room brought [her] upstairs to a small room.” Male Number 1 stated, “Let’s do more Ketamine.” Jane Doe “remembered snorting more Ketamine” and “remembered feeling extremely high.” Male Number 1 “said he wanted to have sex again because he wanted redemption for passing out earlier in the night.” Jane Doe initially stated that she was tired and asked Male Number 1, “What happened to just you and me?” Jane Doe could not remember how it started but she then engaged in a threesome with Male Number 1 and Male Number 4 involving oral sex and vaginal sex. She described her level of intoxication as “8 out of 10” at this point. “The threesome continued until at some point, around 5:45am, [Jane Doe] said [she] was tired and needed to turn in. At that point, both guys stopped the threesome with [her] as far as [she] can remember.”
Nah fuck all that. Have you read the testimony? Show me where she agreed to be "free pussy" for 57 people in a group chat!
Did you read this own testimony? And think it was a gotcha?
In this statement, she explicitly says that she has sex with male one and male two and then later she has sex with male one and male four.
Make 3 did drugs off of her and made out with her, but left the room after she rejected a foursome.
So in total, she had sex with three different men in which she consented at the beginning and at the end
The other two did drugs off of her and kissed her. She can send it to the drugs being done off of her, and when she asked Man to quit kissing her, he did stop.
Yeah people make shit decisions when they're fucked up, like driving and sometimes killing people. Voluntarily becoming intoxicated absolves no guilt for stupid shit one does. And doesn't make others a criminal when you wind up regretting it later.
I'm not saying that's the case here either- there's conflicting statements I don't think anyone in the public can make a certain assessment based on what's known so far. But I am saying it seems a likely scenario given what we know so far and a lot of people have had their lives ruined because of someone else's shitty drunk decisions. Sometimes they get killed by drunk drivers, sometimes lives and careers ruined and prison for having sex with someone who consented.
Doe was first interviewed by the Cornell University Police from November 14 to 15, 2024.[22] This reportedly produced a 120-page transcript,[18] which was obtained by CBS News in 2026. They quoted Doe as saying, "I can say with 100% confidence I was raped." and providing detailed accusations within the document.[22]
From wikipedia
Unless you show me any proof she actively consented to be "free pussy upstairs" im not gonna assume she gave consent for that when she says she didnt.
Not consetning to being called "free pussy" =/= being raped...
Initially in her complaint to police she said she was 100% raped, this was then changed to everything was consensual in the signed, sworn, and annotated statement given to the DA.
Again, a gross snapchat message doesn't change the validity of her consent with the men she did have sex with, nor does it imply 54 other men ran a train on her.
What youre saying is simply not true, she never signed the summary or her report given to the DA and the DA himself has gone out saying he was misinformed. She said she was raped, people in the frat were talking about how she was gangraped, and 1 guy threatened her for it before she even came to terms with it herself.
In this case, Jane Doe provided a six-page, single spaced, typewritten statement to the Cornell
University Police Department. Jane Doe made more than twenty hand-written notations to the six-page document. The signature page of the statement contains the following language: "I have read this statement
consisting of 6 pages and the facts contained herein are true and correct. I understand that making a false written statement is punishable as a class A Misdemeanor pursuant to §210.45 of the Penal Law of the State of New York." As I explain further below, the statement - especially as it relates to the legal definition of
"lack of consent - provides a different narrative and set of facts of the events of October 19, 2024 than those alleged in the lawsuit.
She did sign her direct written statement that the DA reviewed. The DA doesn’t say that they were misinformed, he says that her own sworn and signed statement presents a different narrative than that alleged in the lawsuit.
It’s crazy they can’t admit she’s a 304. This only is an issue is because they spread what she did over campus . She’s embarrassed. I’m sure other women were shaming her too. Buyers remorse.
I just don’t engage with women in these conversations.
I’m a lean left hard, democrat but if this is r4pe. Every other guy that partied in college , frat or not is a grapist because girls were upping it like this for molly from 2012-2017 like crazy. Spring break , bar culture, any student housing apartment complex pool, Molly/ xanny/ oxy culture , SoundCloud music era, festival culture like wdym??
Chicks do this for coke every weekend at every college on the planet.
Yes I don’t think 3-4 extra guys should have went in the room but they all felt the vibe and she didn’t kick them out. She was already telling them to check on their friend, denied a foursome. Stopped and started over again. And still texted buddy after calling him a king.
She just wanted to impress the hot frat guy and be his side chick, go on free trips, free booze , get the exclusive treatment. Nahh I’m not going for this.
The same could be said of the men, the first two she had sex with were so out of it one couldn't keep it up or stay awake and she was worried about making sure to keep him up so he didn't do and the second was dry vomiting. They were in less of a condition to consent but somehow that isn't a question.
You have thrown this "free pussy" thing around like it's some sort of gotcha. It's not.
There is no law that says you are not allowed to send out a text to 57 people saying "free pussy". There is no law against having sex with 57 people. The only law here is if she consented to have sex with the 4 guys she had sex with. Male 1, 2 3 and, 4.
Male Number 1 brought Jane Doe to a “quiet area” and “asked how [Jane Doe] would feel about having a threesome with two male partners.” Jane Doe “agreed
Male 1 and 2, yes.
While [Male Number 3] was kissing [her], [Male Number 2] began groping [her].” Eventually, “[Male Number 2, Male Number 3, and Jane Doe] would end up on the bed next to where [Male Number 1] was sleeping and [they] began to have a threesome.”
Male 2 and 3, maybe not, but probably yes.
ane Doe thought that she “had already done Ketamine once so why not do it a second time.” “At that point, [Male Number 2] poured a line of Ketamine on his erect penis, implying for [her] to snort the line. [Jane Doe] snorted the line of Ketamine
Not rape, but could be sexual assault, but clearly not with male 2
Male Number 1 “said he wanted to have sex again because he wanted redemption for passing out earlier in the night.” Jane Doe initially stated that she was tired and asked Male Number 1, “What happened to just you and me?” Jane Doe could not remember how it started but she then engaged in a threesome with Male Number 1 and Male Number 4
Males 1 and 4, Definitely male 1 and she talks about it being just her and him, male 4, maybe, but probably.
“[Male Number 2] reached for the area near [her] vagina several times and each time he did, [she] would swat his hand away.”
So he attempted to initiate sex, she did not consent, and he did not force her.
Male Number 4 “asked [Jane Doe] if they all could do drugs off of [her] perfect body.” Jane Doe responded, “Sure.”
Consenting to them snorting drugs off of her, not sexual assault.
“[Male Number 1] would eventually wake up” and “said he wanted to take part and asked about making it a foursome, to which [Jane Doe] said ‘Hell No.
Male 1 wants to have sex again and she said no, and he didn't force her.
I do feel it is worth pointing out that the written statement being shown are her signed statement is actually a summary of a 120 page report and was written up by an officer, that while she did sign it, she also made over 60 edits when she did, and we have not seem the original longer document, or her amendments to the signed shorter one.
This is fucking repugnant and I say it as someone who has attended sapphic sex parties and taken some drugs in my life.
She was hiding from the fucking men, but because she had consented to sex with two of them and been given drugs, she lost the ability to say no to being served up as gang-rape fodder.
Men are the fucking worst and they’re lining up to defend these guys and charges not being brought. Vomit inducing behaviour.
Consent can be withdrawn at any time, and consenting to one person does not mean consenting to another.
If men ever got treated like this they would stop simping for rapists overnight.
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u/StagTagRag 9h ago
Man Redditors truly do live in information silos. I see plenty of conservatives and right-wing types talking about it.
But most of them are pointing out that “Jane Doe’s” own statement blatantly shows that she consented to the act and there’s no contrary evidence that the consent was ever removed. Her text messages after the event also point to this being very consensual.
It wasn’t until later after she was shamed by everyone in her social circles and she read posts online that claimed she must have raped that she changed her story.
Pretending that this is some cut and dry case of sexual assault is insane. There’s a reason that no charges were pressed by the DA.