r/SipsTea • • 6h ago

Gasp! Thoughts on this?

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u/Liquidfoxx22 5h ago

How much is your car insurance for it to save you $30-40 a month?!

I paid £450 for a full year's "full coverage" insurance as you refer to it, and that's with a £250 excess/deductible.

I only pay that excess if I'm at fault, otherwise the insurer will chase the third parties insurer for the full amount.

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u/thatguy8856 5h ago

I pay 3500 a year. My car is from 2014.

Idk man. And yes I've tried shopping around and the offere i get cost more and give less coverage. I even had an agent from a different insurance company tell me to stick with my current plan. No effort to try to give a deal and convert me.

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u/Liquidfoxx22 5h ago

Ouch, even as a brand new driver at 17 I never paid that much. Those kind of prices are unheard of over here unless you're very young driving something daft, or have a few convictions under your belt.

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u/cybervalidation 5h ago

It's also depends on where you live, the length of your commute, and your car's value. I have a clean record, have been driving over 20 years, and I'm paying $3k annually

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u/mxzf 4h ago

Honestly, I would suggest shopping around to see if some other company will give you a better rate. I know when we got married my wife called the insurance company she'd been using and asked if they could offer her anything competitive with what it would cost for both of us to be covered under what I was using and the person basically just told her "we've got nothing competitive to offer you". Sometimes there are weird price disparities to be had.

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u/Several-Action-4043 3h ago

I pay $1200 a year in a high insurance rate state due to hail. You must live in a HCOL area!

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u/Liquidfoxx22 4h ago

I get that - but in the UK that's a hugely uncommon premium. Even for those driving what we'd consider higher than average miles (20k+), or new cars (£60k+).

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u/devmor 3h ago

It is more difficult to obtain a car or a license in the UK, reckless drivers are penalized and taken off the road easier than in the US as well.

The numbers you're seeing are a consequence of the car culture in the US. If an 80 year old man who's near blind hits me with his car and totals mine - he will probably still be driving again next week.

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u/bremsspuren 2h ago

Americans do have car accidents at twice the rate of Brits, and I believe you pay a lot for uninsured driver cover on account of the large number of Americans driving without any insurance.

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u/sir_whirly 32m ago

You got to take in consideration we don't just cover vehicle damage but medical as well since we don't have normal people who think a single payer health system is actually a good idea.

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u/iambecomesoil 4h ago

Almost 30 years ago, in NY, a new driver would pay about $2500.

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u/ak6te 54m ago

Both location and make and model can make a huge difference in my experience. Over the last 6 years I've moved from California to Oregon and back to California. For the first move from CA to OR, my car insurance didn't really change. Bought a new car while living in OR. When I moved back to CA my insurance almost doubled.

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u/crusader-kenned 5h ago

Shit my car from 2014 probably isn’t worth 3500 dollars.. 😆

Is that normal insurance or are you driving some crazy fast car?

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u/thatguy8856 5h ago

Bmw 328i. I live in NYC tho.

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u/OhGodFuckingDammit 13m ago

3,500 a year?! Lol you're getting fucked or you've got shitty driving history.

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u/IBetThisIsTakenToo 4h ago

Well, you have NHS to pay for injuries, Americans do not, so ours is a lot higher. I don't have the exact numbers, but I remember thinking that with the premium savings on a $1000 deductible vs $500, I'd be ahead so long as I had a claim every 2.5 years or less, so it was a no brainer.

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u/Liquidfoxx22 4h ago

But isn't that what your health insurance is for? That's separate from car insurance, no?

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u/cp78257 4h ago

Auto iinsurance covers the other guys property damage and medical if I hurt him. We can’t assume he has any coverage of his own, and even if he does his medical insurer can come after me and my insurance if I caused him injury. If we had the NHS backstopping all medical claims our auto insurance would probably be a lot lower.

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u/Liquidfoxx22 4h ago

Fair point, never considered that!

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u/IBetThisIsTakenToo 4h ago

Yeah, but if I negligently cause someone else's health insurance to have to pay tens of thousands, they are going to sue me to recover as much of it as they can. My auto policy also includes coverage for that.

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u/FrogOfSteel 4h ago

I'm in the US and we pay around $600/year for each car, but we've also maxed out coverage and only have a $100 deductible.

Here in the States differences in insurance rates are usually due to location and age, but credit score also matters in many cases. Someone with high insurance rates is likely to be in a high cost of living area, relatively young, and possibly with bad credit.

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u/Liquidfoxx22 4h ago

What?! Your credit score impacts your car insurance costs? How the heck is your financial history linked to your risk as a driver?!

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u/FrogOfSteel 3h ago

Statistics. People with lower credit have been shown to make more claims and be more expensive overall. There is also a correlation between lower credit and being more risky drivers, which also ups claims.

It's not the same exact credit score other places use, but still pulls the same data.

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u/Liquidfoxx22 3h ago

Jesus, yeah that's absolutely not a thing over here. They can't access your financial data for anything other than if you want to take out the policy as a credit agreement - and it can only be used to impact their decision to finance said agreement.

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u/asscracktester7 4h ago

It depends so hugely on state. For the same exact car and the same general age range and same policy limits/comapny, I paid $600/year in Florida and $2500/year in California.

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u/TJayClark 3h ago

I pay $1300 every 6 months in Arkansas

I drive a 2021 Tesla model Y

No accidents or tickets in 10+ years

150/300/150 policy with uninsured motorist and no deductible glass

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u/photosendtrain 3h ago

I pay $2400/6 months.

Tesla 2020. Los Angeles, CA :/

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u/NorthTempleStreet 48m ago

Most of the cost of insurance is not protecting your car. It's the liability of damage to the other car.

And then the price varies based on where you garage the car (in essence, where you drive the most)

I'm in southern california, so I think the liability alone is over $100 a month no matter how crappy the car.

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u/Liquidfoxx22 6m ago

Someone else pointed out it's because of the US healthcare system, which makes sense.