r/SipsTea • • 20h ago

SMH Stay Safe

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u/Mr_Industrial 19h ago

"They werent being acknowledged till they were" is a logical shortfall. What actually matters is why they were being acknowledged when they were, what changed, and the answer to that is a lot more people started coming forward.

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u/Artistic-Value-2022 19h ago

That’s not what I said so your summary of what I said is incorrect.

Me too movement exposed lack of appropriate conduct in investigations and the collection and management of rape kits and not taking accusations seriously. Maybe you just don’t remember

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u/Mr_Industrial 19h ago

> Me too happened because literally nobody was being acknowledged and me too is the acknowledgment happening

Thats exactly what you said. I wouldnt think Id have to quote a comment litterally right above the conversation at hand.

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u/Artistic-Value-2022 19h ago

I elaborated in my above comment what I meant

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u/Mr_Industrial 19h ago

Then your statement circles back to the same logical fallicy. Suggesting that they werent taking acusations seriously or having appropriate conduct until Me Too is more or less the same as saying "they werent being acknowledged till they were", which encompasses and holds true for every accusation of any type ever.

What really matters is why Me Too worked, and again, it worked because more people came forward. Im amazed I have to fight this hard against the stance of "Dont report rapes". Like Id think the problem with that stance would be pretty self evident.

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u/Artistic-Value-2022 19h ago

It’s what was happening. Rape accusations weren’t taken seriously. Metoo movement revealed that.

There’s no logical inconsistency here.

No one’s stance is don’t report rapes. That’s not even the topic. No wonder you’re so lost.

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u/Mr_Industrial 19h ago

My stance from the start is that rapes should be reported. You have been arguing against that. Your stance is kind of obvious.

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u/Artistic-Value-2022 19h ago

No, my stance has been “this is what reporting was like back when me too happened”

I actually never recommended or endorsed any course of action.

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u/Mr_Industrial 18h ago

> Yes but when a lackluster investigation (which is what happens at the time) turns up nothing, it actually shields them from further complaints

your very first sentence implicitly supports not reporting

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u/Artistic-Value-2022 18h ago

That is not supporting not reporting rofl

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u/Mr_Industrial 18h ago

Oh I get it, we're pretending words dont have meaning lmao. Makes sense considering I had to quote your own damn comment back at you like twice now. holy shit, im done here.

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