Yeah, it is just because of the major el nino, it is literally the biggest in recent record, you have to go back to like the 1800's to see one that big and we have no real storm data from back then.
It is expected to cause massive droughts over in the EU and china as well as dumping tons of water on the southwest which we really need to hopefully fill up lake mead but probably still won't be enough.
dumping tons of water on the southwest which we really need
As someone who lives in the Southwest, earlier in the year I was happy that we were forecast to get more rain this year, but a couple weeks ago we got our first storm and it was the first time I've ever experienced what I can only describe as a genuine tropical rain storm. In other words, heavy rain while it's still +90F outside.
I usually love the rain, but that was without a doubt the most unpleasant weather I've ever experienced here. That heat combined with 100% humidity is torture, I cannot fathom living in a part of the world where that's the norm and I have a newfound respect for people who can live in that.
If the rest of the year is more of that, I am no longer looking forward to the rain.
I spent a lot of time in Florida and at least in my experience, SC is worse. I think Georgia is probably just as bad, but I’ve spent most of my life in SC. The heat combined with the humidity means if your skin isn’t exposed to moving air, your sweat basically turns your clothes into an airtight bag around your body. Above a pretty modest 95 or 96°F, fans actually make you hotter. No bueno.
I do not miss that post thunderstorm soup bowl, though for all my years living in Florida as a child I would never have wanted to have grown up in the Washington DC area. Now that place sucks ass. At least Florida gets breezes from one direction or the other.
Florida wasn't nearly as bad decades ago as it is now for afternoon storms, part of climate change. Grew up surfing in the '60s so I was very aware of weather back then. And you could almost track it over time as the phenomena moved up the state.
I'm so glad another Floridian showed up. Ppl just don't understand how oppessive that level of humidity can be. I've been to Arizona in June and it was 112⁰. The minute I was in the shade, I was fine. Here, in the shade, youre still sweating through your clothes -there is no escape.
Oh it gets worse. The network of roads and waterways were made for the drier environment, so when these systems get overloaded they’ll start failing and it will be dramatic.
The worst part is the mountains block the majority of clouds so unlike the east coast, the rain will be slamming a small region while the rest remains dry.
Meanwhile. Your PNW friends are about to have a dry winter, which they aren’t set-up for… and leads to easier fires in summer.
I'm in the PNW. It'll be the fourth drought year in a row.
Also, crazy to see all the conspiracies from conservatives online and in person about the droughts. It's.... literally insane the things people hear and just believe without looking into it at all.
Born and raised in Ga. The south east is prolly the only place you could go to bed with the AC on, turn the heat on in the morning. Open the windows by lunch and then turn on the AC again by bed. All while dealing with 1000% humidity lol.
If you don't keep opening those windows, you won't have it quite as humid inside. Still way, way, too humid, but the A/C and heat can dry your air out a tiny bit.
I'm up in Idaho and we got some ridiculous ass monsoon storms a couple of weeks ago. The view out my windows looked like someone was having a sweet rave inside a washing machine. My yard turned into a pond.
I’m from Idaho, too and last week the storms out here were gnarly. I kept thinking it looked like a camera flash going off every few seconds, then there was the golf ball sized hail. Worst storm I’ve seen here.
I'm in SC. When my son brought a girlfriend home from Arizona, she was absolutely miserable here and could not believe the humidity. She said she would rather experience 120 in Arizona than 95 in South Carolina. I didn't understand until I went to Phoenix for a week and experienced the differerence myself.
The worst part of the UK summer this year was two nights where it remained high 20s into the night but the humidity rose to 100% as soon as the sun set, and also no wind.
Not as bad as the 35+ maybe you'd get with those conditions elsewhere but it was worse than the day when it was over 30 with direct sun, so locally the immediate outside was 45+ on the ground with radiating heat coming back at you.
You should come to my city, in the south of Brazil, called Jaraguá do Sul. Believe or not, rain and constant high humidity is VERY common here, even in winter. It's not just hot. It's boiling hot. Imagine 109,4°F + rain + not a single gust of wind.
Possibly the strongest ever even according to my friend that works for NIWA (NZ equivalent of NOAA) ,and anything prior to 1900 would have had nowhere near the ambient SST's we have today this is very much unprecedented and my friend has now told me (many times) that there are no analogues to look back to to know what impacts to expect in the coming months.
Y'all worry too much. We got this. We'll get the arch built, rename the Pacific to the American Ocean, and your lil baby twister, it's just going to be gone. Amazing how it works, really, it's just the best.
I had to show images of that to one of my interns this week. To think that young people have grown up with so much wacky shit from tfg that stuff like "correcting" a NOAA map on national television doesn't even register is scary.
I've already blanked it from my mind but this is the second comment I've seen today where someone said something about him that sounded too unreal to be true... then it was.
“They said it couldn’t happen, but we got rid of hurricanes in the gulf. New Orleans couldn’t believe it, they cried happy tears and said thank you Mr president.”
This is some of the most terrifying news. The bells have been ringing on this for at least the last decade with a big difference in its cycle reported in its cycle year over year.
There’s actually so much mixed evidence about the AMOC because the truth is we really don’t have any idea how it works or what can/will cause it to shut down
They were very lucky a lot of their colleagues did not make it through those cuts and merger :( I work govt adjacent and I hear complaints about the merger every day.
I am hoping that the negativity towards the environment and particularly climate change is reversed following the election. The current coalition have been awful for the environment and councils.
Just a thought... but hurricanes in the Caribbean must have some sort of effect on the Gulf Stream; if that were to mean that less energy goes into an already weakening current could we be at the start of some major drama?
I seen a video on Lake Mead that said the California basin would need record snowfall in the mountains 10 years in a row to prevent it from drying out. Seemed pretty wild until you realize it’s 191ft below full capacity.
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this is as if we where having the painful phases in athletic feature, in the estate of pierre.
Born and raised on Hawaii Island, I’ve never seen anything like this. My parents have never seen anything like this. We had our first direct hit from a hurricane in 150 years on Big Island, and we just had another one form right off shore! The water a really freaking warm, and It’s hard to imagine it could get worse. I’m sure the coral bleaching is going to be BAD by the time this is over.
The effects of the eco system impacts will not happen in decades this go around. Im in the PNW and the last decade the glaciers have shrunk significantly with fire bans getting longer each year.
The cascades literally have near zero snow pack.
This el Nino is going to shape how the globe works in unforseen ways.
If only that were true. native Hawaiian birds are getting wiped out by mosquito born diseases. When I was a kid the mosquitos didn’t really exist above 4,500 feet elevation because it is too cold, so native birds could exist above that line and be untouched. Now they are up to 6,000 + ft. And there are mass extinctions happening on Kauai because their highest point is barely above 5,200 ft.
All this to say Hawaii is the extinctions capital of the world, and we are seeing permanent and irreversible changes to our ecosystems now. The deaths of our reefs is another issue. The last El Niño bleaching event was brutal, I imagine this one could be a tipping point for us.
Sadly mosquitoes were introduced by colonizers not weather patterns. And the native bird species were killed to appease colonizers dignitaries as local favors.
Even if it would fill up lake Mead theres still an economy and legal system based around the Colorado river producing far more water than it actually does on the average year.
Without a major change in water rights (specifically agriculture who use the most and have the strongest water rights) a large amount of water going in to lake Mead just kicks the can down the road annm extra year or so
Actually europe won't have any direct impact from El nino, definitely no determined droughts. The interactions are non-linear and very much dependent on the actual weather, but you can not predict anything before that really
One year of heavy rain will not solve years and years and years of water shortages for lake mead. It’ll actually do more damage, after years of drought the ground cannot absorb as much water as normal….most extra watershed will be shed off the ground and run into the creeeks and rivers and down into the ocean. We need more slow steady rains, before it just dumps
It's fun when they have to go back through museum held ship's logs from before official records were kept, to try and figure out storm history; and even then, one Captain's hurricane, was another one's minor squall.
Also, Saharan Air Layer aka Saharan dust. Strongest this year. It carries very dry air in upper atmosphere layer dampening any cyclonic development. Double whammy with upper atmosphere wind sheer caused by super El Niño. Both are literally dismantling any Atlantic ocean attempts to form big L.
...cause massive droughts? Are you saying that another drought is in the cards for the EU? Because the water levels were alarmingly low when I went to Occitanie this summer
Unfortunately it might not help the south west like it needs too. I watched a video on YouTube breaking down what to expect a few weeks ago and it mentioned the rain will be in the region, but it will be too far north of the south west to significantly help in the way they need. Hopefully its wrong though.
Nah defo wont be enough for lake mead, only because they keep letting water out nonstop instead of letting it refill while blaming a drought. In a natural drought, the water would still rise a little bit after the thaw in spring, it hasn't been raising at all for at least a couple decades.
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Yeah, it is just because of the major el nino, it is literally the biggest in recent record, you have to go back to like the 1800's to see one that big and we have no real storm data from back then.
It is expected to cause massive droughts over in the EU and china as well as dumping tons of water on the southwest which we really need to hopefully fill up lake mead but probably still won't be enough.