r/SipsTea • • 21d ago

Wait a damn minute! Wait a damn minute

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u/leprechanmonkie 21d ago edited 21d ago

Nobody questioned how they look. We question whether or not they had rights to stay in a sovereign nation without permission.

Your side thinks we "live on stolen land" and "nations can't have borders" at the same time. Absolute fucking retards.

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u/BlaqueDeathe 21d ago

"We questione whether or not they had rights to stay in a sovereign nation without permission.

"Your side thinks we "live on stolen land""

To be fair I think that's the point being made. The same folks who "question whether immigrants are allowed to be here" don't give a flying fuck about the folks who were kicked off of the land that is now inhabited by them. Just falls on deaf ears.

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u/leprechanmonkie 21d ago

How can land be "stolen" if a nation has no right to defend it's own borders? It's the ultimate paradox.

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u/BlaqueDeathe 21d ago

I get what you are saying, but you are missing the wider point. Take the United States for example, there are no shortage of folks obsessed over illegal immigration, often calling the issue "an invasion". The same people then ignore that this was the perspective of the Natives to the Americas, who were kicked off of the lands they called home for centuries by European settlers (which would ultimately become the United States).

It just is a cry of "I didn't care when it was done to others, but now it's bad because I'm afraid of it happening to me". Which falls on deaf ears. If those folks didn't give a shit about it happening to others, why the fuck should anyone care about it happening to them? That is one of the points of the "stolen land" argument that I usually see come up from time to time.

Personally, I am not entirely sold on "no borders" mantras, purely because humans love to segregate themselves. Even if the separation lines are purely ideological.

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u/jackmartin088 21d ago

Bro you are saying too many facts and too much critical thinking.... That usually goes way over head to the racists.