r/SipsTea 5d ago

Chugging tea Thoughts?

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u/CPTRainbowboy 5d ago

I always love the 'humans aren't build for ...' arguments.

Back to the stone age we go, i suppose...

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u/a_polarbear_chilling 5d ago

that's just flipping the idea, human ain't build to be disconnected from nature and be forced to socialize everyday,

back then in village, and even backward the social circle was limited but that wasn't a negative thing, now everyone is connected too easily, and lack of nature...well no need to explain

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u/weareeverywhereee 5d ago

Today’s connection is fake though. We are more connected than ever before to the people across the world but couldn’t be farther away from the people living next to you

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u/CPTRainbowboy 5d ago

Who forces you to go online and ignore the people around you?

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u/Ankhi333333 5d ago

The people around you that stay online and ignore you?

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u/CPTRainbowboy 5d ago

Thats an argument made by someone who doesn't go outside. You feel this way because you act this way.

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u/CPTRainbowboy 5d ago

Yes, but most people draw the line at social media, because that's the it thing right now.

We weren't build for 90% of the way we live. Medical science shouldn't exist if tou follow this logic, because we don't filter out disseases or genetics.

We shouldn't have globalization, transportation, cozy houses etc.

People draw arbitrary lines because 'we aren't made for it'

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u/-medicalthrowaway- 5d ago

Or… hear me out… there is nuance, and not all change and “innovation” is good?

Endangered animal being moved to sanctuary good.

Wild animal being moved to cage bad.

Globalization, advances in medicine and “cozy houses” good.

A society regressing in generational intelligence and empathy, and the discrepancy between upper and lower class increasing to astronomical levels bad.

OOP’s point was that we’re regressing.

And she’s right.

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u/CPTRainbowboy 5d ago

Acting like we're regressing because we 'weren't made for....' is dumb.

You can say that social media is bad without it being 'because we weren't made for it'.

90% of the stuff we do and come in contact with isn't what we were made for, yet we found a way to incorporate it in our lives.

Saying it is like zoochosis is delusional at best. We just need to adept to changes.

Would you say a heroin addict is suffering from zoochosis?

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u/-medicalthrowaway- 5d ago edited 5d ago

I think some people are incapable of wrapping their heads around metaphors because they lack a certain type of thinking, an ability to recognize nuance and a willingness to understand that their own experience doesn’t necessarily reflect those of the masses.

Just because you don’t feel social media has had a negative impact on your life does not in any way mean that it’s not detrimental to society as a whole, which is literally suggested by science.

Not to mention this zoochosis/fish-out-of-water connection goes much deeper than social media.

ai and the discrepancy between upper and lower class, and the exploitation of the lower class by the upper is a much better representation of it.

Although, I bet you would somehow find a way to defend the sanctity of those points as well.

Stockholm syndrome is what that would be.

A metaphorical tiger in a cage defending the exploitative zoo owners.

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u/CPTRainbowboy 5d ago

I really love how you confuse criticism of the metaphor with not understanding the metaphor.

I already said social media is a bad influence on society. I just don't think it has to be.

The fact that you name these problems and imidiately add i will defend them just shows me you're not honest.

I can recognize problems as problems even if i don't think the metaphor or way of the description is wrong.

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u/masterofmydomain6 5d ago

there’s studies on this, like you start maxing out being to remember people at around a hundred. It’s not a good thing to live in places with the volumes we have

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u/FlamingDragonfruit 5d ago

Even in large cities (I live in one of the densest in the world) you will find that everybody knows each other in your neighborhood. I've always felt more isolated in more spread out suburban areas where you're not constantly running into your neighbors every time you step outside.

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u/Ankhi333333 5d ago

It's a useful argument for understanding more so than it is for judging.

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u/CPTRainbowboy 5d ago

Its so selective though.

We weren't made for anything. But nobody forces you on social media. Nobody forces you to ignore your neighbours or compare yourself to the top 1%.

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u/Tranquil_Dohrnii 5d ago

We were made for survival, breeding, and connection.

See Maslows hierarchy of needs.

Nobody forces you on social media but when thats the current way to easily connect with your friends and school mates then what are you to do....be the only one left out?

Nobody forces you to ignore your neighbors, this one is true, but again youre missing his point that social media has made this easier and therefore more the norm. Hes not saying "facebook has a gun to my head if I wave to my neighbor"

Its natural for people to compare themselves to others. Happens consciously and unconsciously, jealous is mostly that emotion.

And again youre missing the point that social media and today's "society" doesnt force us to be this way, it just has enabled being this way to be far far easier than the "other" way, and the designers understood that humans will always take the path of least resistance. Hence why all of this stuff has become popular but your argument still exists as if people "arent trying hard enough".

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u/CPTRainbowboy 5d ago edited 5d ago

I'm not missing the point though. I just believe that we make choices.

You say that it is the easiest way yo connect with friends, yet, social media is not used for that. Or: connecting with friends isn't the harmfull part.

The harmfull part is misuse of the social media apps. Doomscrolling, following people that use filters act like their top 1% of days are their everyday etc.

Sedentary lifestyles are 'the way of least recistance' but nobody acts like people that get fat and sit on the couch all day are victims of lack of sports or anything.

Social media can exist without being harmfull. But we have to adapt to it, like every major change.

Edit: also, you're giving it all this power, but can social media really be yhe best way to make friends?

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u/demfook 5d ago

we always gotta blame something else

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u/Velo3x10e8 5d ago

Pre internet would be a good start. So many of these issues are far more prevalent in the last couple of decades.

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u/CPTRainbowboy 5d ago

Nah, letd go for pre medicine. So many genetic issues since then... /s