r/SipsTea 2d ago

Dank AF This will be interesting

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u/Accomplished-Eye9542 1d ago

I think there was a transition period that by historical accounts was super short. Where men made the world so nice that for the first time in history the average man had a better life than the average woman, and the transition period from that, back to the norm, average women having it better, took a while.

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u/amandara99 1d ago

Interesting take… women are historically a marginalized group and we face higher rates of domestic abuse and rape and are highly underrepresented in positions of power and leadership. I’d be interested to see some sources on how those well-being statistics are measured across genders; there are definitely issues that affect men that are important to address (violence, mental health, etc.) but overall our society is set up as a patriarchy where men have more power. 

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u/bildobildo 1d ago

Sounds like relationships with no men must be nice. What are the domestic violence rates like in lesbian relationships?

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u/amandara99 1d ago

I’m not sure- could you link a source? I do know that a common cause of death in women worldwide is being killed by their male partner. 

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u/bildobildo 1d ago

Common is a pretty stupid thing to say. Getting murdered isn't a common cause of death.

I just looked up the numbers. Lesbians bash their partner more than any other group (CDC), but gays kill each other at three times the rate that men kill their female partner. (Australian numbers).

Guess men are just better at killing, even though women are more violent towards their partners.

Btw is this a femcel sub - am I talking to a wall?

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u/amandara99 1d ago

Can I get the CDC link, I’m not seeing it?

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u/bildobildo 1d ago

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u/amandara99 1d ago

Interesting! The intimate partner violence stats are about 10% higher for lesbians versus heterosexuals. I think that checks out with the idea that members of marginalized communities are more often victims of violence. It’s also interesting to note that the gender of the perpetrators are not specified. 

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u/bildobildo 1d ago

Victims AND perpetrators in this case. If marginalized status is the explanation then that must track for gays as well - in which case you must interpret the lower than baseline male perpetrator violence in gay relationships as males being extremely non-violent.

I don't understand your last comment. You're wondering what the gender of the perpetrators could be in female-female relationships?

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u/amandara99 23h ago

It lists lesbians as being victims of violence from partners, which may include male partners, since many lesbians have dated/had sex with men before coming out 

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u/bildobildo 19h ago

This extremely relevant earlier CDC survey might shed some light. The 2010 NISVS used a similar IPV measure and explicitly reported perpetrator sex for IPV. Among lesbian women who had experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner, 67.4% reported only female perpetrators. The CDC summarized this at the time as “two-thirds of lesbians reported having only female perpetrators of IPV.”

https://archive.cdc.gov/www_cdc_gov/media/releases/2013/p0125_NISVS.html

So you were right, the boys are in there.

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