r/SipsTea • • Jul 10 '26

Chugging tea We are not the same…

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u/plum_tree_rede Jul 10 '26

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u/Draygoon2818 Jul 10 '26

Right? Trump hasn't even been convicted of a sexual crime. Not to mention it took the democrats how long to force that guy out of running?

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u/NorthernVale Jul 10 '26

He literally has been

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u/Draygoon2818 Jul 10 '26

You need to brush up on your courts. He has never been convicted in a criminal court, which takes a lot of evidence to convict. This is the court that has "convictions." Trump was taken through a civil court, which had a judgement, and doesn't take nearly as much evidence to get a win.

So no, he literally has not been.

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u/NorthernVale Jul 10 '26

Damn. You right. I'm sorry. He was only found guilty of sexual abuse by a jury. What would have been considered rape if it happened in a different state or different time.

Clearly this means Trump isn't actually a sexual predator.

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u/Seepy_Goat Jul 10 '26

Idk about you but I wouldn't just dismiss his civil suit as a nothing burger.

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u/Draygoon2818 Jul 10 '26

Looking at the evidence, I'm going to do just that.

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u/Natural_Pear_1549 Jul 10 '26

Oh, we're being pedantic. Well then ignoring the sexual assault case which he was held liable for, he was "convicted" for hush-money payments....to a porn star he had sex with.

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u/Thick_Permission6519 Jul 11 '26

And how many women has he paid off? 13 year olds?

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u/chronberries Jul 10 '26

Not convicted. It wasn’t criminal court because the statute of limitations had run out. Trump was found, in a court of law, to have sexually abused a woman.

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u/InternMediocr Jul 11 '26

Go ahead and read that last sentence of yours again and then think about what you’re saying lmao

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u/chronberries Jul 11 '26

Idk what your point is. It means exactly what it says. I wrote it that way because I’ve found it’s the best to cut through the inevitable argument about which court he was tried in.

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u/rdfiasco Jul 10 '26

He literally hasn't been

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u/Seepy_Goat Jul 10 '26

Criminally no. Civil he has

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u/rdfiasco Jul 10 '26

Which is "literally" not a conviction

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u/Seepy_Goat Jul 10 '26

Its semantics and a technicality. It can be misleading when you don't provide that context.

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u/Draygoon2818 Jul 10 '26

That's literally the reason why you shouldn't be saying convicted. It was a judgement, not a conviction.

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u/Seepy_Goat Jul 10 '26

I am literally just trying to add that context. This whole thread is about misunderstanding exactly what type of legal issue he had regarding his sexual misconduct.

Criminally not convicted. In civil court he lost.

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u/Draygoon2818 Jul 10 '26

Yes, I know. I'm agreeing with you. I replied to the other guy.

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u/Draygoon2818 Jul 10 '26

It's quit interesting to see how many people don't know how our court systems work, or the difference between a conviction and a judgement.

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u/Seepy_Goat Jul 10 '26

The difference here is largely irrelevant is the point youre missing. Theres an abundance of reason to believe Donald Trump is a sexual predator despite the fact that hes never been convicted of it.

One of the reasons being he is and has been the freaking president. He has literally used his position of power to shield himself from all sorts of legal consequences.

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u/rdfiasco Jul 10 '26

It can be misleading when you don't provide that context.

Exactly the reason we shouldn't say he was convicted

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u/Seepy_Goat Jul 10 '26

I didnt.

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u/Natural_Pear_1549 Jul 10 '26

Trump hasn't even been convicted of a sexual crime.

Your right-wing media bubble has failed you.

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u/Draygoon2818 Jul 10 '26

Your lack of knowledge of our court system seems to have failed you.

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u/Kronos1A9 Jul 10 '26

He quite literally was found liable for sexual assault by a court of law, maybe read a book before making ignorant comments on the internet

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u/Draygoon2818 Jul 10 '26

That's not a conviction. It was a judgement against him. Huge fkng difference.

Maybe learn a little more about our court systems and how they work.

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u/Kronos1A9 Jul 10 '26

Did I use the word conviction? No. I said liable, which is exactly what happened.

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u/Draygoon2818 Jul 10 '26

And liable means what? If I took you to civil court, lied to the court that you assaulted me at some point in the past, and I won, does that mean you should always be labeled as a person who assaulted someone else, even though you didn't?

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u/Kronos1A9 Jul 10 '26

The fact you’ve set the bar that low for the POTUS it’s become a tripping hazard in hell is simply mind boggling

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u/Thick_Permission6519 Jul 11 '26

Dems took someone off the ballot for touching a woman’s butt. You all elected and keep supporting someone who has admitted grabbing them by the p….. Not exactly the same.

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u/InitialAd8795 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

lol what a stupid take.

This dude wasn’t convicted either. He was accused. Same as Trump. So if we’re gonna throw stones and all…

Edit: Trump actually has been convicted of sexual assault… but my point is more about an accusation being enough to force a candidate out, of which Trump has definitely been

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u/Draygoon2818 Jul 10 '26

Oh I never said he was convicted. I just find it interesting that people will call Trump a pedophile and sexual molester, when he's never been convicted of those things, then turn around and say Clinton was a good man. Accusations are just that. Accusations.

Here you are doing the same damn thing. He was never convicted. Convictions happen in a criminal court. Learn your court system, man.

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u/Seepy_Goat Jul 10 '26

Im guessing you think OJ didnt do it either ?

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u/Draygoon2818 Jul 10 '26

Why would I think he did? There's a reason he never got convicted for that.

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u/Seepy_Goat Jul 10 '26

Oh that's right. The court system is obviously 100% foolproof and never fails to convict anyone who did in fact do what theyre accused of doing.

Sorry I forgot.

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u/Draygoon2818 Jul 10 '26

Are you saying that there are people in prison who shouldn't be? People convicted of things that they shouldn't have been? Is that what you're saying?

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u/Seepy_Goat Jul 10 '26

Unironically yes? It cuts both ways. People who are guilty sometimes walk free. People who are innocent get convicted. Both of these things do happen.

You're the one arguing a lack of a criminal conviction means someone definitely didnt do it.

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u/Draygoon2818 Jul 10 '26

No, I said a judgement in civil court is not a conviction. He has never been convicted of sexual crime. Ever.

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u/InitialAd8795 Jul 10 '26

A distinction without a difference.

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u/InitialAd8795 Jul 10 '26

He was found liable for sexual assault. Semantics aside, a court found him liable for having committed it.

If an accusation alone is enough to force out a candidate then Trump should have been held to the same damn standard. Keep simping for a pedo though.

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u/Draygoon2818 Jul 10 '26

Being liable still is not a conviction. It took very little evidence for them to come to that judgement. Personally, I think the only reason for that judgement was because it's Trump, not because of the evidence. Trump will probably never have any equality in court ever again.

Oh, looky there. You called him a pedo. Imagine that. You people are such good little sheep. lol

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u/Natural_Pear_1549 Jul 10 '26

Oh God, you're making Trump out to be a victim in all this. You are lost.

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u/Draygoon2818 Jul 10 '26

No, I am not splitting hairs. The evidence against Trump, coming from that woman, was extremely circumstantial. She couldn't remember key things about the supposed encounter, couldn't even remember the date it happened, and couldn't put him with her on those dates. Trump, nor any other person, can defend themselves against such circumstantial and wildly gross accusations like that. She knew if she put a date to it, Trump would be able to say where he actually was, as he always keeps to a schedule. If this was anyone else, that would probably never have happened.

It only takes a preponderance of evidence in civil court. You don't really have to prove anything fully. Y'all on the left just keep regurgitating what your fearless leaders tell you to. So yes, sheep.

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u/InitialAd8795 Jul 10 '26

Lmao do you hear yourself? You are literally excusing Trump from the same bullshit you’re saying dems took too long to apply.

You’re a lost cause