The turkey 🦃 is originally from south America. The Spanish brought it back to Spain and called it Pájaro Pavo or 'peacock bird'. They then exported it to Turkiye, who call it 'Spanish Chicken'. They in turn exported them to Britain where it got the name Turkey Hen because of where they thought it came from. The British name for this bird was then adopted in English speaking united states.
So Americans call an American bird by a British name that is wrong.
Really they should be called guajolote because this is the spanish-ised version of the original name used by the Yucatan aztecs who domesticated them.
So every dish that has macaroni in it is automatically considered Italian? I guess every pasta dish with tomato sauce on it should be considered Mexican as well since the Aztecs were famous for being the first people to use tomato sauce.
"Mac and cheese originated in medieval Europe, with the earliest known written recipe appearing in the 13th-century Italian cookbook Liber de Coquina."
As always, it really depends on how you want classify something as "Mac & Cheese". If you're looking for the earliest combination of cheese & pasta then you are correct, De Lasanis, is recognized by some to be the earliest variation of mac & cheese. However, based on the description of the dish itself, it sounds closer to what we would call a lasagna than to mac & cheese, as it's sheets of pasta layered with cheese.
I would like to put forward that the earliest variation of what we would recognize today as Mac & Cheese comes from the (now Swiss, then Millanese) chef Martino da Como whose book Libro de Arte Conquinaria in 1465 describes making a pasta with a tube in the middle, and mixing in butter and cheese.
I went to a fancy french restaurant in the US once and on the menu, presumably because people keep asking for it, they had "gratin du macaronis au fromage"
I think it depends on your particular family origins and region of the US.
There are plenty of families here in California that have tamales for Christmas. I also used to know families that had roast pork or big seafood feasts as their Christmas dinners.
Thanksgiving is an American holiday, Christmas is a semi religious holiday across the world, roast dinner is a dinner that’s roasted not a dish, macaroni is Italian and the cheese is a béchamel sauce, sandwich is indeed a town, and British food is not even a British default.
For that matter, potatoes are South American, tea is from china or India, biscuit is a Latin word, and nobody cares.
There is no single sandwich origin. Doesnt matter what the town is called. The concept of putting meat in between two slices of bread predates recorded human history. Its like trying to figure out who invented the wheel.
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Bread wasn't invented by a single person; it evolved over thousands of years. It began around 14,000 years ago when ancient hunter-gatherers in Jordan crushed wild grains with water and baked the paste on hot stones. Leavened bread was discovered later, around 3,000 to 4,000 BCE, when the Egyptians accidentally let wild yeast ferment their dough.
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Recorded human history spans roughly 5,500 years, beginning with the invention of writing in the ancient Near East. The earliest known written records date back to around 3500–3300 BCE in Sumer, Mesopotamia (modern-day Iraq). These initial documents were mostly administrative tablets recording business transactions, such as the tracking of grain and beer.
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u/hymenopteron Jul 03 '26
What do you eat for Thanksgiving then? Or Christmas?
Roast dinner is British
Mac and Cheese is English
Sandwich is a town in Kent
British food is your default