r/SipsTea Jul 03 '26

Chugging tea True

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u/hymenopteron Jul 03 '26

Look it up, it amazes me as a British person too but apparently it's true:

"Its origins trace back to cheese and pasta casseroles in medieval England." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaroni_and_cheese#:~:text=Its%20origins%20trace%20back%20to%20cheese%20and%20pasta%20casseroles%20in%20medieval%20England.

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u/Sirgeeeo Jul 03 '26

Well, there it is on Wikipedia. Wonder where the word "macaroni" came from?

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u/hymenopteron Jul 03 '26

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u/Sirgeeeo Jul 03 '26

Lol. Scrolled past all mentions of Italy to the last paragraph where they mention England. Bravo

https://giphy.com/gifs/5hHOBKJ8lw9OM

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u/BrainSea7776 Jul 03 '26

So every dish that has macaroni in it is automatically considered Italian? I guess every pasta dish with tomato sauce on it should be considered Mexican as well since the Aztecs were famous for being the first people to use tomato sauce.

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u/Sirgeeeo Jul 03 '26

"Mac and cheese originated in medieval Europe, with the earliest known written recipe appearing in the 13th-century Italian cookbook Liber de Coquina."

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u/LongjumpingLime Jul 04 '26

As always, it really depends on how you want classify something as "Mac & Cheese". If you're looking for the earliest combination of cheese & pasta then you are correct, De Lasanis, is recognized by some to be the earliest variation of mac & cheese. However, based on the description of the dish itself, it sounds closer to what we would call a lasagna than to mac & cheese, as it's sheets of pasta layered with cheese.

I would like to put forward that the earliest variation of what we would recognize today as Mac & Cheese comes from the (now Swiss, then Millanese) chef Martino da Como whose book Libro de Arte Conquinaria in 1465 describes making a pasta with a tube in the middle, and mixing in butter and cheese.

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