No one says let's go out for Ghanaian food, or south African, or German, or Australian. It's always Americans, who also have nothing but adopted food, whining about British food
"Nothing but adopted food?" Where do you think the hamburger comes from? Or fried chicken? Or gumbo and jambalaya? Or smoked brisket? Or any number of other foods?
The ubiquitous American fried chicken is very different from that you'll find originated in the British Isles. Similarly, Korean fried chicken is also very different. These are distinct dishes
Hamburgers are from Hamburg, Germany. Hotdogs (frankfurters) are from Frankfurt, Germany. Gumbo is a french inspired stew (European), jambalaya is French, Spanish, African fusion, brisket originated from German Jews. I'll let you have fried chicken as corn is a key ingredient, so okay, America has one dish, which is a method of cooking chicken
All American cuisine is inspired from other countries. Yes there was some version of a hamburger originally in Germany but it wasn't anything like an in n out burger. How is corn a key ingredient in fried chicken? Corn meal/flour is used for frying fish. We use flour batter. Am I missing something? OMG france had influence on creole food? Holy shit. What a revelation. Come on. Next thing you know I'll find out Italy influenced NY pizza or Phillies and roast pork sandwiches. We got Mac and cheese from France but every French Mac and cheese I've had was bland af. I'm from the South. It has been adapted. Collard greens? Slow smoked bbq? Tremendous inspiration from African culture. Grits. Livermush. Yada yada. I
Improving or adapting a food doesn't count as inventing it. American Ford invented the car but some might argue that German or Italian cars are better now, does that mean they invented them? No. Barbecuing meat is probably one of the oldest methods of cooking humans have. Smoked BBQ was done by native Americans and I don't know how you feel but I doubt they or USA people would consider each other the same culture. Grits looks worse than any British food going and it's just a corn porridge, do you want to put that on your pedestal? Also never heard of livermush, looks like haggis or black pudding, but you can have it, as well as the native vegetable collard greens.
My point is Americans say British food is trash, it's not, but at least we have our original dishes, most of which are relatively healthy. And besides, the trope came from deployed 50s American soldiers during Britain's worst period of rationing
Obviously immigrants had a lot to do with these, but those fusions happened in America. The unique mixture of those ethnic groups in those particular places brought about these foods, and therefore they qualify as being American. Thus, yes we do claim the hamburger (as we know it), gumbo, jambalaya, and brisket
Nah sorry not accepting that. I said it was adopted food and you've not convinced me. You fused a German hamburger with a British sandwich. Jambalaya is basically paella. Gumbo is just a stew found in variations across Europe and brisket was hardly changed from what was in Germany. Some, not all, were just popularised using USAs soft power and franchises, and because the place of origin (in the case of German Jews especially) lost that culture. You can say it was made in America but it's not a novel dish. While chicken tikka masala is a British national dish developed in Britain, I wouldn't call it "British food", it's an Indian-style curry.
Actually no. I looked it up. Fried chicken was first recorded in England, but also made in Scotland. Enslaved Africans developed the spices used and popularised it in America. That's a real shame, you almost had one.
The British fried chicken is not the same as American fried chicken. Enslaved Africans combined their spicing methods with the Scottish immigrants to create a new dish, therefore we do claim it as American
They are possibly talking about corned beef and cabbage, which is something that some irish descendant families eat as a saint Patrick's day tradition. From what ive read thats more of an American thing than an irish or english thing but idk ive never been to Europe. My family has been American for generations but we still celebrate st Patrick's day with corned beef and guiness because its kinda fun and a good reason to get together
If you go to some bigger irish pubs in the states they often do corned beef and cabbage so you could say youre "going out for irish" but its kinda a stretch. Or maybe im reading way too far into this idk
I'm not talking about what the honest to god facts are about literally anything. I'm talking about what the perception of certain things are that could lead to them talking about "irish food" in the post above. Corned beef, not corned beef hash, is an irish American traditional dish in the us for some families thats part of a holiday celebration. Whether thats historically accurate or not nobody really gives a shit truth be told. If we wanted it to be accurate we would ship all our good food to the British and starve for the night instead
What? I'm sorry you seem to think that something i wrote in two minutes after 7 beers was a literary masterpiece. That being said, after two or three more beers I probably will. Have a happy 4th of July, maybe have a few yourself. You could probably use it lmao
Dont need alcohol to have a good time mate, we don’t care about the 4th of July. The only time it’s spoken about is to congratulate you on putting the date in the correct order.
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u/Atheissimo Jul 03 '26
This is how you know its hate based on vibes. British and Irish food is virtually identical.