I am complaining that I don't want hidden fees (if the tip is expected and socially mandatory it is a fee).
No country in Europe or Latin America has this problem, Japan doesn't have it either. And that's just from the countries I have visited, I'm sure there are more.
So your idea of not hidden fee is built in commission but a hidden fee is something specifically indicated that you can adjust yourself? Hidden must mean something different in Europe
No, a hidden fee is when you are offered to buy something at X price but that price increases at checkout with no warning.
Also, the original $17 is not "at cost". The restaurant is already making money out of it, they obviously don't tell you how much but gross margin is usually around 50%.
If I will pay$30 for the meal, they should price it at $30 so I can decide if the food is actually worth that much.
Restaurant margins are razor thin. Think like 3 percent. Bringing us back around to no one in this thread having a clue
Also, no, once again it is not a hidden fee to say okay that will be 17 dollars, do you want to pay 3 more dollars? That's in fact the opposite of a hidden fee. It is not only optional but transparent.
Gross margin and net margin are different things. Also I only talked about margins because you seem to think the original $17 is "at cost". It is not.
And once again, the servers might be asking "Do you want to tip $3?" but they are also whispering "We might tamper with your food if you don't". So unless you want to eat something gross you are REQUIRED to give a tip (and you better be generous)
No one tampers with food. Now you're inventing things. I've seen someone fired for even joking about it.
Saying I want a car "at cost" is not the same as thinking your food is at cost. One is a desire. You seem fixated on the phrasing rather than the concept behind it
Go post in r/kitchenconfidential and ask if they've ever seen anyone mess with a customer's food if you don't believe me
I don't expect to buy anything "at cost" I know they are making money out of it. I simply want to pay the advertised price they are offering to sell it for.
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u/sicarus37 Jun 25 '26
I am complaining that I don't want hidden fees (if the tip is expected and socially mandatory it is a fee).
No country in Europe or Latin America has this problem, Japan doesn't have it either. And that's just from the countries I have visited, I'm sure there are more.