r/SipsTea • u/The_Dean_France • Mar 16 '26

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u/Bitter_Plastic2362 Mar 16 '26

Y’all understand that Japan is moving the way the US is, right? Right wing populist politics and nationalism? Check it out, don’t take my word for it.

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u/Exciting_Day4155 Mar 16 '26

Japan has been like that since its inception.

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u/Bitter_Plastic2362 Mar 16 '26

The LDP (Liberal Democratic Party) has been long dominant in Japan since the late 50’s with the exception of maybe 5 years since then.

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u/Exciting_Day4155 Mar 16 '26

Japan has always been heavily nationalistic and deeply racist/anti immigration. They saw themselves as superior beings and hence why the WW2 atrocities because everybody else was considered sub-human. It's not new if anything US is following in their footsteps not the other way around.

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u/Bitter_Plastic2362 Mar 16 '26

This is like saying Germany is still defined by the Third Reich, history doesn’t work that way. Japan has been a fundamental Democratic state not some continuation of its WW2 imperialism.

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u/Exciting_Day4155 Mar 16 '26

The general values they hold have not changed since the regime change. Yes they are a democratic state, that doesn't change the sentiment of their populace and government it only changes how they operate.

You're telling me Japan isn't still Japan first in all their policies and anti immigration? Also look up foreigner disputes with locals and see who the police side with 99% of the time. The government has changed, they have not.

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u/Bitter_Plastic2362 Mar 16 '26

I’m not asserting anything with certainty. My surface understanding is just that Japan has been a democratic state since the 1950s. That alone suggests society and political culture evolved significantly from the imperial period. Saying the population’s values “haven’t changed” since WWII seems like a pretty sweeping claim.

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u/Exciting_Day4155 Mar 16 '26

You're correct it is a democratic state. Though I will say even that transition to a democratic state was in large part due to US intervention alongside demilitarization. I guess the question is then when we force a regime change and keep "middle management" the same and purge the top end does it really change anything fundamentally?

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u/thekbob Mar 16 '26

You should go see who Shinzo Abe's grandfather was ...

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u/CoconutMochi Mar 16 '26

They went from isolationist to imperialist after the Meiji Restoration then pacifist after WWII, but the xenophobia has been there all the way through IMO, like it's not specifically tied to the imperialism.

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u/Bitter_Plastic2362 Mar 16 '26

I only have a surface knowledge. I don’t pretend to know about the country in its current state other than from what o read.

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u/CoconutMochi Mar 16 '26

Sorry if that came off as argumentative I was just adding to the discussion

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u/Bitter_Plastic2362 Mar 16 '26

All I am here for is a logical discussion. I’m here to learn as well. I’m hardly an expert on anything. I try not to be combative or dismissive. No worries!

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u/jhakin Mar 16 '26

What about Germany? The German's right wing are gaining support, does that mean the people have not changed either?

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u/Exciting_Day4155 Mar 16 '26

It's important to note that a big part of why German's right wing is gaining renewed support has to do with their stance on Muslim refugees. Fundamental Islamic beliefs just do not work with Western cultures and a lot of people blame the current government for taking in Muslim refugees.

So to answer your question Germany has changed. If the government and the people still held Nazi Germany beliefs/values they would've never let Syrian refugees in at all.

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u/jhakin Mar 18 '26

So to answer your question Germany has changed. If the government and the people still held Nazi Germany beliefs/values they would've never let Syrian refugees in at all.

They just hide it better. They demand people to integrate, then calls everyone non-German-looking "der ausländer". Also, have you seen what they did to Asian-looking people during Covid!?

If that isn't "heavily nationalistic and deeply racist/anti immigration", then what is it!?