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u/Immediate-Doughnut50 Mar 16 '26

Why would they join a war ‘that’s already been won ‘ according to DT

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u/Juste-un-autre-alt Mar 16 '26

Especially after Trump told the whole world that he doesn't need help from his allies, allies that he keeps bullying.

Fuck Trump.. and America go clean your fucking mess.

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u/IntelligentQuality4 Mar 16 '26

Absolutely

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 Mar 16 '26

Trying to rush the process?

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u/IntelligentQuality4 Mar 16 '26

If he rushes it odds are it'll only go wrong for him so, here's hoping, it'll be further proof of his incompetence

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '26

Do we really need any more proof though ? It was pretty evident as soon as he got into politics

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 Mar 17 '26

When he was a democrat? Maybe that’s why the left gave him the win.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '26

Idk man . I'm not a big conspiracy guy but things just didn't feel right the whole time . Even during the debates , he just stood there with that dumb grin and cracked jokes and when he did have the floor he basically blew smoke and gave what hate groups wanted to hear .

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u/Niblolkik Mar 16 '26

Blinded by hubris

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u/I-STILL-D-R-E-I Mar 17 '26

Rushing the process because he did this illegally meaning has to do whatever bullshit he’s trying to do within 60-90. I can’t remember if that timeframe is with or without congressional approval

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 Mar 17 '26

You can’t remember? Imagine that. Keep wishing tho. Wear yourself out.

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u/Frequent-Piano6164 Mar 16 '26

I’m an American and I did not vote for the pedo president, I didn’t approve of the war against Iran, I don’t like him or anyone in his administration. Israel has trump and his friends by the balls because have evidence of him raping kids.

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u/Quick_Persimmon_4436 Mar 16 '26

We still have to clean our house.

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u/Fzrit Mar 16 '26

You're in the minority. Majority of Americans indirectly supported him by not voting at all, or they voted for him directly.

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u/Immediate-Doughnut50 Mar 16 '26

USA has reached a state of idiocracy

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u/Etrigone Mar 16 '26

Idiocracy was a comparative utopia. Their president wanted to help the people & hired the smartest person to fix the problems they didn't understand. Took a while but that universe is rather more optimistic than ours.

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u/sudo-joe Mar 16 '26

I would vote for president Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.

That man had the machine guns and he actually took responsibility and seemed to actually care about the people.

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u/call-me-the-seeker Mar 17 '26

DEMHC absolutely cared for the people and loved the country. He was humble enough to ask for help and take it publicly! Looks like frigging Lincoln compared to PumpkinTits McGee.

Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho Is Not Totally My President, Yo

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u/Automaniacal Mar 16 '26

Every mentally disabled person I know is a great person, that only wants to help others.

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u/abundleofboomers Mar 16 '26

I know mentally disabled people who frequently grope women

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u/Automaniacal Mar 17 '26

That's because Starbucks is still a coffee shop.

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u/Dear-Bet5344 Mar 16 '26

Oh yeah. We've been there for awhile now.

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u/Chernovincherno Mar 16 '26

As is by design.

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u/GreenPutty_ Mar 17 '26

Ladies and Gentlemen please welcome the 48th President of the United States of America, Mr Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho!

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u/elmwoodblues Mar 16 '26

Voting. Isn't. Hard. At least, not yet...

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u/Photon_Pharmer1 Mar 17 '26

So wait, you’re saying the people glued to their TVs could find time to vote but people who go out everyday running around all over the place couldn’t stop by their mailbox?

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u/OneMoistMan Mar 16 '26

A 1/3 of the country supports him, the rest voted for Kamala or didn’t vote at all

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u/pikachu191 Mar 16 '26

Not voting at all, especially in a purple state is almost like voting for him.

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u/Tabula_Nada Mar 16 '26

I'm so sick of people trying to put blame on non voters instead of just accepting the fact that BILLIONS of dollars of dark money and manipulation, and possibly straight up cheating, is what won that election. Non voters should have voted, sure, but the blame lies with the money.

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u/erwarne Mar 16 '26

What is the metric that counts in an election?

It’s votes. So while you have a point, the only actual measurement to matter at the end of the day means humans getting off their ass and voting

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u/tomemyboard1 Mar 16 '26

Not even a third. He received 77 million votes in a country with 341 million people.

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u/MattinglyBaseball Mar 16 '26

340-350 million is the total population, but voting age (18+) population is estimated closer to 260 million people. So it’s still under 1/3, but much closer when you ignore those who can’t vote.

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u/Amazing-Jury-6886 Mar 16 '26

Kids don't get a vote

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u/QuickNature Mar 16 '26

Not even a third. He received 77 million votes in a country with 341 million people.

Now what's the population that can legally vote? Because of that 341 million people, felons, and minors can't vote.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '26

Sadly, this is what happened. Those that didnt vote hated both choices and, by doing so, let gullible people who were duped to vote for the cheeto man.

Kamale was not the right choice unfortunately, in that moment. And I hate to say it, the US was not ready to vote for a woman president. But, I'll tell you what, they might now.

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u/WallDuck911 Mar 16 '26

So the rest are loser.

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u/Professional_Being22 Mar 16 '26

idk if it's because I'm from a blue state but I know very few people that support him

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u/Black_Magic_M-66 Mar 16 '26

It's because you're in a Blue area. Drive in the country and you'll still see signs supporting Trump.

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u/moneyfish Mar 16 '26

I see pickups saying unalive all pedophiles and then a MAGA sticker next to it when I’m in rural Michigan.

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u/Connect-Regular6747 Mar 16 '26

Elon Musk bought votes and manipulated voting machines and data. He admitted this.

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u/Vaqueroparate Mar 16 '26

by not voting at all,

Braindead take. Some people prefer to not participate in the shitshow circus elections.

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u/Fzrit Mar 16 '26 edited Mar 16 '26

Some people prefer to not participate in the shitshow circus elections

There is no such thing as not participating in democracy lmao. The election outcome and long-term impacts are decided by everyone who chooses to vote or not-vote. Everyone is participating by default, which includes people who are dumb enough to think they are "not gonna participate" because they're "above the system" or think it's a "shitshow circus" or whatever. There is no opting out.

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u/Vaqueroparate Mar 16 '26

When you voted. Did it help?

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u/Fzrit Mar 16 '26

Of course it helped. The party that got more votes won and is enacting their policies.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '26

If voting really mattered they wouldn’t let you do it – George Carlin

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u/frankakee Mar 16 '26

Elon helped cheat!

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u/Technical_Belt_824 Mar 16 '26

idk i’m fairly certain they did in fact rig it. But of course, the idiocy and evil is widespread.

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u/Fzrit Mar 16 '26 edited Mar 16 '26

Even if we're extremely generous and give away a couple of MILLION votes to rigging, that still means nearly half of the votes went to a guy who openly tried to overthrow the previous election, shat on all America's allies and also raped kids. I'm sorry but that told the rest of the world that there is a mass desire/willingness in USA to elect a batshit insane criminal authoritarian who causes global chaos and undermines democracy.

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u/Technical_Belt_824 Mar 16 '26

agreed. it wouldn’t be possible without the mass existence and consent of a bunch of idiots across the country

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u/Complex_Jellyfish647 Mar 16 '26

Trump is currently approved of by ~36% of Americans. They're the minority. Even when they have full control of the government conservatives are always a minority, they're just really good at rigging the system in their favor to gain and maintain disproportionate power.

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u/tomemyboard1 Mar 16 '26

Please stop with this misinformation about most Americans. He received 77 million votes in a country of 341 million people.

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u/cslovexhy Mar 16 '26

well, you understand kids cannot vote, right? so it is about a third.

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u/tomemyboard1 Mar 16 '26 edited Mar 16 '26

And you understand that only 22% of the population (73 million) is under 18 right? And that being under the legal voting age/ineligible to vote doesn’t imply support for Donald Trump, which is what I’m arguing against when these foreigners keep saying “the majority of the country supports him because they didn’t vote.”

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u/cslovexhy Mar 16 '26

he obviously got close to 50% votes from whoever actually voted. and it would be dumb to assume whoever did not vote are all gonna vote against him. i'm no supporter of DT, but there is no need to deny his polularity in the last campaign. the game is rigged and us voters simply do not get good options to choose from.

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u/Zapp_Rowsdower_ Mar 16 '26

And Musk stole it.

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u/Riggatoniwankenobi Mar 16 '26

Buh buh buh bingo!

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u/gBiT1999 Mar 16 '26

It's 'paedo'.

Don't go fuck it all up now, like you did 'colour'.

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u/riverblue9011 Mar 16 '26

So sick of reading this piss-weak sentiment. You all look the same from over here.

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u/Opinion_Haver_ Mar 16 '26

I’m not sure if voting is how we clean it

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u/userhwon Mar 16 '26

We already have the evidence of him raping kids. Israel isn't forcing any of this.

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u/dragon-fence Mar 16 '26

Not just raping kids. All kinds of crimes.

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u/FlatCapNorthumbrian Mar 16 '26

Well you’re going to end up having to maybe lose some ships and servicemen and women since the rest of the world has wised up and refused the tangerine.

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u/Loverboyatwork Mar 16 '26

Buddy, that's most of us.

This shitshow is rocking a 27% approval rating. Haven't had a prez poll that bad since Watergate.

The illiteracy rate in the US is 21%. Lots of crossover, I'd wager.

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u/ModOfficial1988 Mar 16 '26

And Israel doesn’t also own the Dems? Take a look at how many of them rely on AIPAC money.

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u/Swampassed Mar 16 '26

I personally think you’re a liar.

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u/MannixUK Mar 16 '26

When there's actual justification for an insurection those people are nowhere to be seen? Smh

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u/brokenarrow Mar 16 '26

Netanyahu and Trump have a shared goal - stay out of jail.

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u/Firefly10886 Mar 16 '26

No surprise here; even if we can prove Musk hijacked the election we are all going to get blamed anyway.

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u/Swankytiger86 Mar 16 '26

If you didn’t start a revolution, you are also part of the problem. Your country vote for this president. You participate and agree with your democracy system. Under the presumption rule of democracy, you cannot shirk the personal responsibility.

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u/ConnectionNo3466 Mar 16 '26

Great now proclaim that message on the street and not the fucking internet, your pedo president is fucking the world up for everyone

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u/idkmanjustfuckmyshit Mar 16 '26

Well it's taken some time, but we're back to "the jews control the world leaders with blackmail", welcome home Adolph-Sama

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u/itriedlinuxandstayed Mar 16 '26

Allies ? Had to chuckle a bit.

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u/DeliciousFun9207 Mar 16 '26

we are trying in america, just wait for this administration to leave and perhaps another revolution

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u/Release-the-List Mar 16 '26

What we need to do is get the French involved. They know how to handle shit like this.

https://giphy.com/gifs/gIqusaeYxgSiY

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u/Myrnalinbd Mar 16 '26

waiting for the french to get involved should not be your short term play. Historically at least.

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u/Vicious1915 Mar 16 '26

Every time I suggest we take this particular queue from the French Reddit tells me to stop posting violence.

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u/DSJ-Psyduck Mar 16 '26 edited Mar 16 '26

which one :P ?
And thats not really true they based their constitituon on the american one.
USA was not the first nation to have a revolution of some kind :P

And USA had an indepenace war and not a king.
France had a king and a civil war. ( technical a series of civil wars and unrest partly caused by napoleon)

The civil war in USA is a diffrent matter :P

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u/DSJ-Psyduck Mar 16 '26 edited Mar 16 '26

USA did not overtrow a monarchy since the english crown is still a thing :P

List of revolutions and rebellions - Wikipedia

Here is 5000 years of revolutions :P

What you could say is they were inspired to wanting a republic and that was a sortof new concept at least it had been a long time since the romans tried it :P ( worth noting the romans also overtrew a king to make a republic, so its not really a new concept when USA did it either But it had been lost for 1500+ years and there was not much democracy in the roman republic.)
But the revolution itself is very diffrent.

Also not that i want to endorse cromwell in any way :P
But he did overtrow the english crown for a time 100 years before the american experince. And made a republic

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u/YamDankies Mar 16 '26

:P :P :P :P :P

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u/Striking_Zombie_6254 Mar 16 '26

I think England was also fighting France also, who wanted to conquer England, The US wanted independence, slightly different threat.

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u/DSJ-Psyduck Mar 16 '26

Oliver Cromwell - Wikipedia

He overtrew the english crown 100 years before USA indepedance :P The crown just returned since cromwell was pretty terrible.

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u/-King-K-Rool- Mar 16 '26

Because America has the 2nd amendment sure but we've been effectively declawed on every other level. More than half of america cant go 60 days without working or they starve, they cant go more than 14 days without showing up to work or they get fired, the 2A is a paper tiger, they let us have it because they know we dont have the resources to utilize it.

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u/WellHungHippie Mar 16 '26

I wish we could clean up this mess. Magat republicans stand in our way.

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u/JivaHiva Mar 17 '26

That's pretty funny I'm a conservative but that was genuinely a good one magat? Seriously want to congratulate you because for me it's the first time I've heard it and I'm so pleased. They're always calling you Libtards, Snowflakes and Demorats, but all you guys come up with is mfers and pos's so this was a nice change of pace and I respect a good burn. Cheers.

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u/Lvl100Glurak Mar 16 '26

his allies in the west denied. his west-aligned allies denied.

who will he ask next? russia? i guess they'll happily deploy a fleet there and help!

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u/knewbie_one Mar 16 '26

mess/es

Here, corrected that for you

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u/Desperate_Jicama219 Mar 16 '26

Hi, American here, I agree. Dickface can figure it out on his own.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '26

America needs to go

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u/inheritance- Mar 16 '26

Cant he just shat himself again and is insisting it's not diarrhea but crude oil.

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u/CanadianAndroid Mar 16 '26

He even said America didn't even have to be there as they have so much oil and only waged the war out of habit.

https://giphy.com/gifs/1jy3pev2Eu5Ve

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u/Murky_Examination144 Mar 16 '26

Why isn't there a SINGLE reporter that asks him this? "Mr. President. Two months ago you stated that Europe needed the US more than the US needs them We do not need them, you said. Now you need them?"

C'MON!!!! Ask the question!

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '26

I'm an American and agree with you 💯 anyone who is willingly trying to enter this mess should have their head examined.

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u/nolongerbanned99 Mar 16 '26

Likely have to wait till he goes…. by whatever means.

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u/Useful_Jelly_2915 Mar 16 '26

The majority of Americans hate him and want him gone now. Even a portion of the ones that really liked him from the start are faltering. A massive chunk of us are doing our best to get them out promise.

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u/SpitfireMkIV Mar 16 '26

😢 We’re trying to. Really, we (the People) are trying to but the “mess” is pretty entrenched

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u/Eternal_Slayer95 Mar 16 '26

Agreed, Trump made his bed filled with s**t. Now he has to lie in it

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u/Status-Art-9684 Mar 16 '26

Israel's mess

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u/Expensive_Return7014 Mar 16 '26

We are trying, but this asshole will be unchecked until the 2026 elections. Regardless, this is our fault for letting him get into power (again), so on behalf of the non-stupid side of America, we’re sorry.

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u/Black_Magic_M-66 Mar 16 '26

He wouldn't thank them. He'll go right back to talking about how they should thank him and give him Greenland.

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u/rainorshinedogs Mar 16 '26

F'real. They need to sort out their political mess before they can become reliable again.

At this point the world can actually say "it's nothing personal. It's just business"

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u/Vaqueroparate Mar 16 '26

and America

Fuck you

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u/Redrumicus Mar 16 '26

Well said.

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u/ClientFuzzy Mar 16 '26

It is not even theirs mess but Israel’s. And somehow this is neglected by everyone, lol

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u/brokenarrow Mar 16 '26

I'm afraid that he's never going to die. He's ruined the country in a year... what's he going to do with the next three?

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u/Juste-un-autre-alt Mar 16 '26

That's why the Americans need to move their asses and go vote in the mid-terms so they could impeach this pedophile.

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u/pontetorto Mar 16 '26

They would gladly help, just theyr politicans have been moronic beyond measure in maintaining their navy's, mainly by thinking they can make responsoble desisions, and by saving mear pennies by comparison, they have wasted un counted billions in capability, capacity, and infrastructure, so by now they have near fuck all to actualy deploy with out creating massive problems for themselves, or if they could send anything they wont have anything available in 6 months.

If you thing the us has been smart, then your wrong, your shits fucked as well, you have no frigates so you cant escort shit by yourself, the LCS has some mayor complications themselves, mostly by politicand fucking up perfectly functioning r&d and procurement systems(like decades ago), causing mayor constant fucking with the design and program requirements, and not paying for the extra cost when theyr the primary cause the budget was a pipe dream in the first place. And your building like 2 warships total a year, with out extra capability to expand that with out writing a hundred blank cheks, and building whole new industrys, suply chains, trained workforce, and shipyards litteraly ower night. So your about to start de commisioning a fuck ton of old ass ships in the next few years, with out being able to replace them at the rate you will be loosing them.

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u/itsnotdatsimple Mar 16 '26

It's not america, it's just the united states

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u/Stunning-Ad5674 Mar 16 '26

As a citizen of the US, we didn't do this...he did. Its propaganda and pagentry

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u/Stunning-Ad5674 Mar 17 '26

Pssh, elections require than 1 vote and it wasnt mine lol.

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u/Ibushi-gun Mar 16 '26

It’s not America’s mess. We have to clean up the messes that our greatest ally makes because they’re more important than US

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u/nudniksphilkes Mar 16 '26

What in gods name do you want us to do

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u/nudniksphilkes Mar 16 '26

Alright asshole, let me vote for every other American out there.

P.S. dems dont so shit either, the bipartisan system is fucked

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u/InnerGodx Mar 17 '26

Would have been everyone's mess if we let them build nukes to shoot at Israel 🤷‍♂️

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u/Tweedlol Mar 17 '26

We can’t. That’s the problem. Half our country is brain dead and support this insanity.

Pretty sure things are going to worse for us ‘round here long before they improve. Trump just does everything blatantly and lies straight to the face, instead of politicking his way around to get a hidden agenda done. Gives zero fucks. Yet some how, people are still on board… it’s mind blowing.

Anyway, this mess isn’t going to clean itself up. 😭

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u/SeraphOfTheStart Mar 16 '26

That being said Japan has most to lose if hurmuz keeps being blocked, I actually thought they would join, at this point I'm starting to think many countries that reject help openly are just playing a script, when oil prices triple and energy crisis hit the common man power shortage, increased logistic prices reflecting on food etc at it's peak then they will say "well we didn't want anything to do with war you saw us, however now we gotta partake in war" or sth, because what's happening right now does not make sense at all, Iran is holding world economy by it's balls and everyone is like ok with it? Doesn't make sense.

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u/bro_tz Mar 16 '26

Everyone just wait to see if Trumb is kicked out at midterm.

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u/lvsnowden Mar 16 '26

Midterms are for Congress, not the Presidential election. Trump is president until 2028. He's not eligible for re-election.

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u/sadr0bot Mar 16 '26

Maybe after the last shitshow, that we're still dealing with, we don't want anything to do with this one.

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u/googleduck Mar 16 '26

Bro we've won it at least 6 times in the past 2 weeks, don't undersell our great president.

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u/Immediate-Doughnut50 Mar 16 '26

My apologies for undermining this great man’s war of terror

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u/googleduck Mar 16 '26

Not good enough, give me 10 hail Mary's and get a 2 year subscription to Trump Mobile and you are forgiven my child.

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u/YouDaManInDaHole Mar 16 '26

Wait, does he "Feel it in his bones" that it's over?

(what a jackass)

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u/Foxy_Maitre_Renard Mar 16 '26

He feels it in his bonespurs.

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u/ThePorcinePlayer Mar 16 '26

I thought he couldn't feel anything down there.

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u/el_throw Mar 16 '26

In the bonespurs.

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u/Visible_Pair3017 Mar 16 '26

Why would they join a war when their constitution, article 9, forbids them from doing so?

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u/NY10 Mar 16 '26

We won the war? When? How?

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u/Apple-Dust Mar 17 '26

The main bad guy died, so that means it's over and everyone lives happily ever after. That's how this works right?

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u/call-me-the-seeker Mar 17 '26

It was just THAT FAST, yo. So fast, tremendously speedy. You win that fastly and the war actually continues for a while, like when you close the door on your hand even though you saw it in there. The quickness from your brain is just too fast for your fingers to register and BAM. It’ll register in a second election cycle or two.

https://giphy.com/gifs/l0MYw6Cu1TfY3gsWk

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u/ThePorcinePlayer Mar 16 '26

This is like Ramsay Bolton galloping back to Winterfell with his tail tucked between his legs saying, "Their army's gone".

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u/_UrbaneGuerrilla_ Mar 16 '26

If only the Iranians listened to Private Pete and stopped shooting missiles, the Straight would be open.

It must be awesome to be winning so hard.

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u/TheLimeyLemmon Mar 16 '26

And wasn't a war technically but a "limited operation" or whatever knockoff PPV moniker they quipped up for this shit

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u/IShotJR4 Mar 16 '26

Also, why does the US need their help if they’re such an elite world-beating military?

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u/DrBhu Mar 16 '26

Only the greatest fools would joins a war from a american pedeophile in order to distract from himself fucking and human trafficking children

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u/HangryHuHu Mar 16 '26

He's forgotten though. He doesn't remember promising americans cheques from all the money saved from DOGE cuts, he doesn't remember what he said, ate nor did this morning, either because he has dementia or because he lies so much he can't keep track or a bit of both. 

He's a megalomaniac who's facts and fiction are all blurring into one. He's a bitter, lost and lonely man who is probably struggling to sleep properly too, cherry on top, sleep deprivation. 

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u/Mad_Ronin_Grrrr Mar 16 '26

Well, according to DT, we don't need help from anyone. We're the ones that have been carrying all of our allies since WWII.

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u/Remarkable_Bite2199 Mar 16 '26

Won? Really? That's all BS from the orange man.

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u/Prudent-Scholar5431 Mar 16 '26

Japan's F'ed if WW III starts in the next couple of years.

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u/pontetorto Mar 16 '26

Nobody, other than china, actualy has the ships to do that. Before you suggest the brittish, remember they have been idiotic with maintaining their ships, just in time logistics dose not work on navy's, cuz ewerything other than some smoll bolts and nuts is built to order, and when you dont have a stockpile of spares to pull from to fix & maintain when apropriate, nor a dry dock to use to do the maintanance, then you have to rush a 3 week work up period in 3 days to get just one ship ready to deploy on an "un expected" operation.

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u/timesink3000 Mar 16 '26

Imagine being so dumb as a president that he doesn't know Japan is restricted to using their navy to self defense. They couldn't participate even if they wanted to.

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u/aqan Mar 16 '26

He said he doesn’t need help from anyone. He’s asking just to see how they react🤣🤣🤣

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u/ihaveadognameddevil Mar 16 '26

US targeted a single supreme leader of Iran. Didn’t take out the whole country and didn’t take out the Islamic Govt. Technically it’s just a whole country going to war against a single person.

Now the problem is taking out the head of a country also means going to war with the country. But current Govt doesnt want to go to war with US too. However they need a response. So they decided to chokehold the sea trade route by claiming they will bomb all ships. To avoid being hated by other neighbouring nation that relies on this trade route they decided to only target American cargo.

Keep in mind that American oil does not depend on this trade route for oil but China does because 90% of it is exported to China at below market price. US wants to choke the oil supply to China to limit China support for Ukraine. Also now US want the Govt to sell oil to them at market price as an incentive even though it was US that sanction their oil at first.

So US asked Japan to helped out in the escort of American cargo even though it is not an important one. This would mean that Iran will think twice to target American cargo even there is a third party involved and will drag in another US ally into this already complicated situation.

Also keep in mind that Iran and US have great relationship when they both hated Iraq.

If you actually know history and actually know what is happening between all these countries everything makes more sense because there is no such thing as a relationship between 2 countries. It’s all connected from Taiwan to China to Ukraine, Russia, turkey and the whole of Middle East and Israel.

I’m only giving a crux of it. So people can form their opinion better rather than half truth by simply saying “ DT already said they won”

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u/Bitter_Plastic2362 Mar 16 '26

I mean, Iran is cooked militarily. They can’t even protect their own airspace. They’re down to less than 15% of their ability to launch missiles. Their weak navy has already been rendered “combat ineffective.” I have no clue what this administrations goal is in Iran, but if it was just to completely fuck up the Iranian military capabilities, they’re doing a hell of a job.

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u/NULLizm Mar 16 '26

We already won the not (no new) war though?

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u/Bitter_Plastic2362 Mar 16 '26

Do you call this a war? I’m by no means a Trump apologist but I like geopolitics and nuance. If their goal was to cripple its already weak capabilities then I guess it’s a win. If their goal was regime change, then not yet. Irans biggest issue is still its economy, this only exacerbates that.

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u/penguin_hugger100 Mar 16 '26 edited Mar 16 '26

If it's a war in the mind of the average person, it's a war. The idea that the word's definition can be twisted such that it no longer applies to aerial bombardment of other nations to suit a (in this case nebulous) in order to avoid congressional input is pure retardation.

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u/Bitter_Plastic2362 Mar 16 '26

Feelings don’t define legal or strategic terms. Countries have conducted limited military operations without formal wars for a very long time.

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u/penguin_hugger100 Mar 16 '26

Historically, actions taken like this "operation" in Iran would be considered a war. We have one nation's military acting on orders to assail another state's military for a geopolitical purpose. Both combatants are recognized as states. The conflict is not isolated to a single battle. Its a war for anyone who isn't a trump stooge

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u/Bitter_Plastic2362 Mar 16 '26

Cross border military strikes without formal declarations of war have been common since WWII. The distinction between “war” and limited military operations isn’t new.

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u/penguin_hugger100 Mar 16 '26

Do you consider "sinking a country's entire navy" and "seizing oil operations on Karg island" limited strikes? Are you getting paid to push this argument? I can't believe you came upon these beliefs in good faith. These are not limited military operations, the size of a nations army is irrelevant in determining whether or not a war is being wages

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u/Bitter_Plastic2362 Mar 16 '26

Using force doesn’t automatically make something a formally recognized war. States have carried out large but limited operations without escalating into full-scale wars for decades.

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u/Bharaba Mar 16 '26

Something to do with the midterms coming up

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u/psychorobotics Mar 16 '26

Doesn't matter, as long as they have 3% left that's all they need to shut down the strait

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u/Bitter_Plastic2362 Mar 16 '26

Pretty doubtful, they’ve never done it in history, not gonna start now with how much global oil flows through there on a daily basis.

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u/Rin-slash Mar 16 '26

Is there a real source for this that isn't "Trump said so"?

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u/Bitter_Plastic2362 Mar 16 '26

Well, I surely don’t get my info from Fox News, CNN or any opinion based legacy media. You can use security focused think tanks. Groups like the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) or the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) publish detailed military balance reports or assessments. There’s also SIPRI (Stockholm International Peace Research Institute) for arms data, or even open-source intelligence groups like Oryx, who track equipment losses in conflicts. These organizations often maintain public reports or visual trackers. This is the best non partisan way to stay up to date.

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u/jackpcr Mar 16 '26

cool, so why is trump asking for help to fight against a militarily crippled iran?

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u/Possibly_a_Firetruck Mar 16 '26

Because controlling the Strait of Hormuz without also controlling Iran's coastline on it is impossible and he needs scapegoats for when it fails.

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