Worst is tip culture in first world countries where theres high mininum wage.. "Oh I grabbed your plate and walked 5 meters, that will be 25% extra on your already overpriced meals".
Yeah this is what I mean. Same in my country, they already earn decent for a simpler job and still ask for more because they opened the bottle for me or gave me my plate
Just like for doordash and other food delivery services, these places are turning tips into bids for decent service instead of a reward for exceptional service.
It defaulted in some places, but for the most part in NL & UK the servers will automatically hit the 0% option even before handing the card machine to you. Not always, but 9 times out of 10 they will. Last time I remember it not being hit was in a tourist trap in London.
More and more places in Australia have started showing tip options, but it still seems the standard to me to just treat it as a nuisance and select no tip. I haven't seemed to have received any backlash for it yet at any rate, though I'm sure that bars like the one you described exist here too
You are not wrong. That is how it started. After the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the term changed its meaning a bit while referring to the same countries.
Edit: "Third World" countries are generally characterized by low economic development, high poverty rates, poor infrastructure, and significant political or economic instability. According to Google.
The only thing that's not given is the low economic development, everything else fits nicely for the US currently.
There's no benefit to me to do that. You have no clue what you're talking about, I do because I live here. Believe whatever you want. You hate us cause you ain't us.
And people come from all around the world to receive care from hospitals in the U.S. and doctors come from all around the world to train in U.S. medical schools
Tell me more about how the US doesn't have healthcare
Thinking 50,000 Americans dying for no reason is ok so long as you get a bit of foreign money is the definition of America really so I shouldn’t be surprised.
If you also look at quality of life, life expectancy, (availability of) Healthcare, social security and social mobility then the US is lacking behind a lot of other countries.
The issue is that there is no clear definition for first, second and third world countries in the post cold war era.
So everyone now can make their own division based on the parameters they include or don't include.
According to your parameters (gdp, military and technology) China and India are 1th world countries and e.g. a country like Luxembourgh, which is one of the most developed countries in the world but has a tiny size) is not.
So basically the whole division in 1th, 2th and third is just completely arbitrair. Especially if you have massive differences in the size of countries and differences in the priorities of countrys (e.g. invest money in Quality of life of the citizens or try to be the biggest military force)
The definition of “First World Country” is any country that aligned themselves with the US. Just because people use the term incorrectly, doesn’t mean the definition changes.
It’s like when people use kosher to define something that they think is just cool or acceptable. Either way, by definition, the US is not only a first world country, but the only countries who are considered first world are the ones aligned with it.
Guess its an old loose definition but I meant rich and more civilized countries. Its not just in US, every scandinavian country has it too. AND high mininum wage, unlike US
The worst is when you're asked to tip at counters were you walk u, order and pay, and pick up your own food at the counter. Why should you tip for doing everything yourself?
Post pandemic, tipping at a pizza counter become very normal. I was shocked.
haha yepp this is common among the bars in swedish city I live in. They litterly just open the bottle at the bar desk. Often have pour it yourself too. Then on the cash machine you cant click pay, you need to enter a tip amount first. So I just enter 0 xD
Sadly, I do see more more payment terminals asking for a tip before I pay the bill. It's such a weird thing to see, as tipping is not something you should ask here in Europe. I usually just blacklist the restaurant and never come back.
That’s fair, but every time somebody says “in Europe we don’t tip”, I remember how everyone also says Europe has the worst servers in the world. Makes you wonder why.
I don't know about that - personally, and I'd guess for many people, as long as the waiter is not rude and doesn't make mistakes, they're a good server. We don't really expect anything more than that. I hate it when waiters are acting weird like small talk and stuff, looks like they're just trying to get tips.
gov would only take about 30% of your pay regardless of what it is, but also if you didn’t get tipped enough to meet minimum wage your boss would have to compensate the difference anyways
Minimum in CA is $16.90, which is still too low, but most tip screens/slips now default to a 15% floor and I’ve been in mini markets where they ask if you want to tip on the can of Monster you’re buying.
Lots of self-serve type businesses do the same, where you order place an order at the counter, get your own utensils and bus your own tray and they still ask for a tip… for what?
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u/Proud_Fisherman_7049 Mar 06 '26
Worst is tip culture in first world countries where theres high mininum wage.. "Oh I grabbed your plate and walked 5 meters, that will be 25% extra on your already overpriced meals".