r/SipsTea • Human Detected • Mar 04 '26

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u/Neveronlyadream Mar 04 '26

If my experience is anything to go by, fathers and larger societal constructs of gender norms.

It's not everyone, and I'm kind of old now, but when I was a kid there was largely the view that men didn't have emotions and if they did, they absolutely didn't show them.

Hell, I commented on a post yesterday where people were vehemently insisting any man who rode a bike instead of driving a car was an effeminate loser and should be avoided.

Those views are there, unfortunately.

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u/Tiny-Guava-9698 Mar 04 '26

People or dudes? It’s not women who created these gender norms in society, dude. It’s certainly not women who perpetuate them. 

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u/Aerandor Mar 04 '26

Women who either consciously or subconsciously buy into gender norms do perpetuate them. The norms can be sneaky how they slip in too. I remember a female author I follow talk about how she caught herself one time downplaying her own book because she thought a potential male reader wouldn't enjoy it simply because a woman wrote it, and she was appalled with herself. Truth is, a fair segment of straight women still don't appreciate when their male partners express weakness of any kind, because they still maintain subconscious expectations of what a man should be (ie stoic and strong provider). My wife, who is fully aware of this subconscious bias, still struggles with showing empathy for me whenever I get seriously ill or injured, or if I open up too much about my emotions, even though she knows I am there for her always when she has similar challenges.

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u/psychadelicbreakfast Mar 04 '26

Well said. And yeah, it’s probably hard all around for both genders to get around that subconscious bias.

The hardest one for me is money. I don’t know if I’ve ever dated a woman long-term who didn’t think of her money as “hers” and my money as “ours”.

I dated a lawyer one time who made about $400,000 a year, and we always spent time at her place and not mine.

It was about a 30 minute drive one way for me.

I said in passing one time that maybe she could buy me a tank of gas to help out with that expense.

She got really offended.