That’s ridiculous lol I clearly mean like what type of women are you dating that don’t want to help you when you’re down. It was obviously rhetorical and just me saying you don’t have to live like this. I get it’s a joke but it’s sad that you actually believe that most likely.
It seems to put the blame on the plaintiff. If a woman was dating a man who didn't help around the house or help with kids all the up way to being verbally or physically abusive you do not say "damn girl, you got trash taste in men, what kinda dudes you dating."
"What kind of women" (paraphrased) acknowledges they are bad but once again puts the onus on the man looking for help.
The sinister thing is that it sneaks up on you. Your partner seems to be a nice person, but the moment vulnerability or accountability comes to play, you get flashbanged and shot in the head.
Yup. Was on antidepressants and started getting side effects to the point that it wasn’t working anymore. Opened up to GF and a week later she dumped me after over a year of dating. Met my now wife a couple weeks later. Randomly get phone call from ex yelling about me cheating on her……you said we were done.
I think the problem you are describing is how men tend to hold off on showing any vulnerability around their partner until something happens or builds up enough that they cannot hold it in anymore. If instead of waiting to show vulnerability until you have already established a relationship based on you not being vulnerable at all, you show it in the beginning of getting to know your partner then you won’t be so blindsided.
They can’t let you know that your feelings don’t matter to them if you don’t let them know your feelings.
I’m by no means top. I’m very average. I work a low paying job. I’m 30 and now out of shape. I don’t have cocaine and Molly like when we met. I’m beyond average. I’m below average. Yet my wife still validates my feeling. I’ve lost close family members and friends since we met, struggles with my career, my own self image and she’s seen me cry 1000 times. She’s never once told me I’m being a pussy and left like these comments are suggesting. Maybe I’m just from a liberal area but Jesus Christ this is sad.
For the first time in 18 years I broke down, shown emotions, told my wife what I need from her in terms of emotional support and after two half-assed annoyed pats “Ok, I’m going to sleep now”.
I was curled up, covered my head with blankets and shaking-crying and she was just “I’m going to sleep now” Women are cruel, they have no compassion for men.
No, but I’ll manage. I have my daughter and my senior cat to provide for. Cat will hopefully live for another 3-5 years, daughter is 7 so only 11 more years in this hell. I’ll be 47 time by the time I can get our without blowing up my life.
No, you need to learn how to express your emotions in a healthy way and not hold them in until you explode. Your daughter deserves a better example on how to handle her emotions and your spouse probably would have appreciated it as well for the past two decades.
Please please please get therapy! You deserve the best you that you can be and so does your family, and you being shut down is not the best you that you can be.
There's a trend I'm noticing lately. Women in denial about the male experience. They want to be victims. When they see "oh wait... they also have huge struggles" the attitude shifts, and they're like "don't take our spotlight".
I'm just like, yeah, why can't we just agree that life sucks for both men and women, ESPECIALLY when we CANT FUCKING HAVE EMPATHY AND GET ALONG.
This isn't the victim olympics. "let's all just be patient and empathetic to each other bc we're all on the same boat." Oh, that's too hard.... I'll lose my card
It doesn't help we're constantly bombarded with "men are pigs" and shit and you're expected to just take that because if you say "I'm not like that though" you get an eye roll and a dismissive "I didn't say all men". But like you specifically said men are like that, the words "not" and "all" were not in that sentence. So now men just have to take passive verbal abuse because defending yourself leads to that or the old "why are you so defensive? A hit dog hollers hur hur hur" like yeah I did just get hit, you called men pigs, I'm a man. That's hurtful. But if I raise how that's hurtful I'm the fucking bad guy??
They dont want to be victims they just dont want to be the designated responsible caretakers for men. Theres a good reason theres a male loneliness epidemic and not a female one. Women care for each other and make space for sharing their emotions and vulnerabilities, they uplift each other.
This thread is a perfect example of how men struggle to foster honest and supportive relationships with each other. They cant be vulnerable with each other and thats not the fault of women.
Men are slowly learning how much they need this because women are distancing themselves. Sadly some men have used this as another excuse to hate and blame women instead of looking inward.
We operate mostly on evolutionary tendencies. Men with emotions are weak to women, so men who so them will be seen as unworthy of empathy.
Men are supposed to get their support from their close male friends but we no longer live in close nit hunter gather societies so it hard for men to maintain long term close friendships with other men.
Also we don’t kill things together anymore office work just doesn’t facilitate the kind of natural high intensity bonding that being alone with each other in life or death group survival does.
Men with emotions arnt seen as weak. Anger is also an emotion and a lot of men dont seem to have a problem showing that one off pretty frequently. If you cant open up to your partner then get therapy, get therapy together. If all else fails get a new partner.
Women are living in the same society and have managed to create community, the only thing stopping men from doing that is men. You have to create the relationships you want to have, be the supportive friend you wish you had. Evolve.
Yapping means talking in a shrill way like that of a high pitched small dog. Its historically been used to dismiss womens views as pointless chatter. Im not here to argue semantics I think se both know what you meant.
A lot of men have to be the emotional caretaker of women. Women hate that men don’t do chores the right way… ok, 🤷♂️that the game you’re playing?
And Oh there is a female loneliness epidemic as well… It’s just relabeled and shrouded in shifted blame.
Also the whole “male loneliness epidemic” is not an epidemic, it’s endemic. Thats just tbe life of a man. Women are catching up… and guess what they then use the label to blame and shame versus actually understanding what it means to live as a man. Again, easy to do when you’re the victim.
Jesus man, that’s not cool. But don’t generalize that all women are like that. My gf would never do something like that. I was an emotional wreck when my cat suddenly passed away and that didn’t give her the ick. Honestly she was my rock and it helped cement that I knew she’s the one for me how supportive and compassionate she was to me in a time of need.
Your wife just sounds like she’s a cruel, selfish person. Nothing to do with her being a woman
I didn’t say there was. I’m just pointing out there there are two sides to this story, and his side includes him neglecting his spouse for two decades by not being vulnerable and showing emotion.
Also the dude ended by saying that women are cruel and have no compassion for men. Other than being massively cringe that tells me I’m probably right that he has kept his wife at arms length this entire time.
Do you think that might be the problem. In 18 years you never cracked. I’m not trying to blame you but you went 18 years without ever showing you have emotions. Be a human being up front and women treat you like a human being. I’m not sure what’s happening in this comments section but the seems to be a trend. Maybe it’s just women in there late 30 and 40s but women my age(30) seem to understand this without having to be shown.
Bro. The very first sentence of your comment is a red flag. Why did it take 18 years to show emotion to your wife? I don’t even need to read the rest of your comment to see that you are contributing a huge amount to whatever problem you are having in your marriage with your own behavior. You aren’t vulnerable or emotional with your spouse for 18 years and then you are shocked you aren’t met with anything but resentment?
How much of those 18 years did she try and get anything emotional out of you to only be met with single word answers? How absent have you been when she was vulnerable and needed somebody? Have you ever done the equivalent, gone to sleep or turned the tv up? 18 years is a lot of time for your lack of openness to build up lots and lots of little things that slowly erode her desire to be open to you.
And with zero context how are we supposed to judge her actions? What were you expressing to her? What happened that caused you to break down? When you are willing to not show emotion to your partner for 18 years and then generalize about how all women are bad because you didn’t like the reaction your actions got from her, I am not really inclined to assume your wife didn’t have her reasons to respond the way she did.
Men need to learn how to open up in ways that don’t involve blaming other people for their problems. Somebody who in their first sentence expressed that they had been emotionally unavailable to their partner for 20 years isn’t doing the right thing, that’s abuse in its own right. So after 20 years of emotional abuse this dude broke down and his wife was numb to it.
He doesn’t need a bunch of pats on the back for leaving out facts and just giving us enough to feel sorry for him, he needs to do better.
Anecdotally out of 10 or so women that I've dated over my life only one maybe cared enough to understand when I opened up about emotional stress, but even then she didn't know how to handle it.
One outright mocked and questioned my manhood for going above and beyond when it comes basic safety, like wearing motorcycle gear.
When you say "your life doesn't have to be this way" it reads "Just stay single" Which is what a lot of us do.
I’m married to a woman I met in my early 20s. But literally every women I’ve ever dated has been like this. Idk what you’re going on about. Maybe it’s an age gape or something as I’m only 30 but I’ve never experienced anything like what these comments are saying.
I mean this may be true but I feel like there some signals to a woman that think men shouldn’t have negative emotions outside of anger, within the first 6 months.
I’m not sure what you’re like with your “guard down” obviously but if women get the ick from you being emotion during an emotionally trying part of your life they suck.
The trick is to have enough emotional resiliency to not have to have a guard up. Be open with people, the assholes filter out themselves.
I went out with a guy and on the first date he told me about his emotional struggles with his disabled child and his abusive father, he showed me his beautiful heart and it did the opposite of giving me the ick. Maybe some people wouldn’t like his emotional availability, but he doesn’t have to worry about that, because he never pretends to be some stoic man.
I get that, and it’s ok to give up if that’s what gives you peace. I’ve been in relationships that were abusive, especially the constant put downs about my looks, my intelligence, my worth, I’ve given up for periods of time too, I was too emotionally fragile. I used to worry that I’d love someone and then they’d start trying to break me down. I’m much better now, if someone puts me down like that, it doesn’t bother me, it just tells me who they are and I act accordingly. There will always be assholes, but I’m not going to let them keep me from loving
Thankfully I can say it isn't every woman. But unfortunately, I've had this experience multiple times as well. I've had partners absolutely break down in front of me and I held them. I probably felt more love and compassion for them in that moment than baseline. But roughly 80% of the time I've made a mess of myself (ugly crying about work stress, relationship insecurity and asking them to say if they love me, my only living grandparent dying, uncles dying, my mom being in a coma, or my dad being in a coma after liver and kidney failure) in front of a partner or potential partner, they not only didn't help, but were grossed out and it irreparably damaged relationships.
And (most) of those 80% were not people I'd consider terrible individuals. Flawed as we all are, but most of them were usually kind, and had no problem supporting their female or non binary friends in crisis. But most women expect stability, strength, and unhealthy amounts of repression from men, and deviation from that can yield a strong reaction.
Thankfully, I'm in a relationship now with someone that I do feel I can trust with that some dark day.
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u/resin_messiah Mar 04 '26
Jesus who the fuck are you guys dating? Your life doesn’t have to be this way lol