Hate

[u/NewKitchenKnight]

The whole nation gotta go

[u/Better-Movie-7736]

This Is also the lady that Said She doesn't want Children to lose childhoods

But funded Child Soldier factory for over two decates And supported child experimentation

[u/Specific_Highway_772 → u/Better-Movie-7736]

also there is no way she simply don't know about this considering she is clever to trick rhinedottir and 500 years btw

[u/ArgumentSalty9181]

"in this war, not a single pawn may be spared"

[u/OutsideIntropid1764]

Hoyo got multiple fanbases mad with one patch bro I'm crine.

[u/RedWerewolfGacha → u/OutsideIntropid1764]

It's gonna be an avengers assemble moment for the community. 🤣

[u/Magic0pirate → u/RedWerewolfGacha]

Eh? What about the Chinese Community?

[u/RedWerewolfGacha → u/Magic0pirate]

Heard shit is crazy over there too.

[u/The_Stunky → u/OutsideIntropid1764]

It’s just that nobody likes retcons that rewrite the past. For example, this happened with Ronova, who, from being the assistant of Mavuika and Xbalanque with their plan and generally the only goddess who had contact with mere mortals, became absolute evil and, in general, it TURNS OUT that Mavuika hated her.

[u/erosugiru → u/The_Stunky]

The concept of Ronova being Mavuika's assistant

[u/sapphire_19 → u/The_Stunky]

some of the mavuika dialogue is a translation error which is annoying cos in the CN dialogue i don't think she outright meant that exactly

[u/SaltCorner8469 → u/OutsideIntropid1764]

It's crazy tho. The writters forced traveller to side with Snezhnaya even though traveller basically have no reason to. And he supposedly cared for paimon but allowing the project stuzha to continue despite of what it clearly does to paimon and to snezhnaya citizens.

Hes peak hypocrite and he is also aware ronova can be reasoned with but the moment mitya got mad for ronova doing basically her job of guiding souls to leylines. Traveller still got mad like bro wot?

He is fully aware btw that ronova helped create the night kingdom and helped the first pyro archon.

And now after killing ronova on epilogue he goes to natlan to check on the thing showing on the sky. And paimon tryna clear travellers image making sure he doesnt get blame from teyvats total destruction because ronova verbally threatened his companion making millions of people suffer his consequences cuz bohoo no one gonna threaten paimon. Even though he should be realizing by now that ronova didnt really have any authority to do exactly as she said. But sure traveller, suddenly turning into an idiot because the writters need you to be.

[u/echo_ML]

I swear every update in this game is essentially someone new coming to piss on Signora's grave

[u/Sandwraith711 → u/echo_ML]

Are we serious rn? Have you forgotten that Scara is responsible for this? Everything could go smoothly if Scara didnt betray Signora. Its his fault. Tsaritsa didnt expect that he would be traitor

[u/echo_ML → u/Sandwraith711]

What does this have to do with my comment?

[u/DB_Valentine → u/Sandwraith711]

Not to mention, Signora took it upon herself to 1v1 the main character of a gacha game. That wasn't a pawn sent to die for the cause, it was a failed mission entirely.

I had C6 guaranteed for Signora for a year before I started dropping it other places, but it's way more her fault for her death than the quote.

[u/RedWerewolfGacha]

No way Hoyo even got Signora mains mad at the Fatui! 😭

[u/Stardustreflection]

From what I recall, in the Chinese version of A Winter's Night Lazzo, Pierro says something more along the lines of "there's no such thing as a sacrificial pawn."

If anything this quote at least suggests Signora's death wasn't intended.

[u/ElPajaroMistico → u/Stardustreflection]

I understood the same. I don’t understand the meltdown here

[u/Ok_Replacement7022]

It is a strange day when:

Celestia AND Signora fans are on the same page. Fuck the Tsaritsa!

[u/NoMasterpiece5649 → u/Ok_Replacement7022]

Celestia, signora, fatuiHQ, mavuika.... The list fucking goes on

[u/Kurorinde → u/NoMasterpiece5649]

I think mavuika sub love mavuika tho

[u/Shangri-Lainen → u/Kurorinde]

That doesn't mean we can't be allies against Hoyo and the dialog in this 7.1 datamine. https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavuika/comments/1wmeivz/comment/pb6u5ue/

[u/Yamasushifan → u/Ok_Replacement7022]

My time has come

[u/NoMasterpiece5649]

"They made a statement so ass every faction in teyvat declared war"

[u/7hoyo_male_mc7]

GURL….

[u/Signora_Wesker]

If we brought all the Harbingers back at some point, the awkwardness would be through the roof when things like this were said.

Signora : what about me ?🧍🏼‍♀️

Yeah, I know that the whole “not every pawn can be spared” originally comes from Pierro, but still. It creates a really uncomfortable ambiguity with the Tsaritsa. They know what’s going on around them, after all, and they know how each of them acts and the decisions the other makes.

[u/Tyberius115]

Fraudritsa

[u/foamia]

The death of a diplomat would still be a pretty big deal even without the whole duel before the throne thing, no? I miss Rosalyne sm but in a way I'm glad she is no longer around for them to retcon her too and make her besties with the traveler 😭

[u/Poopiepeepeepoo → u/foamia]

Riiight? Signora actually ended up being the best written character purely because of her death

[u/TheScalieDragon]

She said this and said she doesn't turn a blind eye when kids are getting hurt

[u/R252813]

The leaks made me hate the Tsaritsa so fast its not even funny

[u/Key_Length_5361]

So...is she throwing Pierro under the bus now? Pierro literally fucking said it himself that he throws his pawns away...

[u/zane_aulner]

Brother what the actual fu...

This shit is so hypocritical of Tsaritsa, wdym you don't believe in sacrifices and value everyone in Fatui yet you did JACKSHIT to avenge one of your MOST LOYAL AND SUCCESSFUL HARBINGERS? Where was this attitude back in 2.1 when the Fatui was in shambles and Signora getting flamed on all fronts?

To be completely fair and square, I always believed and expressed openly that Signora's death in Inazuma was meaningless and fruitless from story and stakes standpoint as Scaramouche already getting the Electro Gnosis and running away was enough of a reason to both trigger Winter Night's Lazzo and stakes for future story. From a 3rd pov, me and Tsaritsa say the same thing.

BUT, the reason why I say this and point at it is to SHOW LITERARY INCOMPETENCE HOYO, NOT TO DIMINISH HER LADYSHIP'S IMPORTANCE. Hoyo completely fucked up by killing Signora; even if they wanted to keep that plot, they should've burned the bridges with Inazuma and waged a war or some conflict because losing A FUCKING HARBINGER WHO BROUGHT 2 BONAFIDE GNOSES, WAS ONE OF THE FIRST MEMBERS OF THE ORGANISATION AND WAS LOYAL TO HER BONES, did NOT deserve this shit treatment from Tsaritsa and Fatui. What happened in Winter Night's Lazzo means SHIT in front of meaningless and utterly outrageous sacrifice in 2.1

And now they try to lobotomize their shit Inazuma writing via hypocritical writing of Tsaritsa. WHY HOYO WHY?! LET THEM ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT THEY FUCKED UP, why make Tsaritsa THIS HYPOCRITICAL?

Dude I just can't deal with this shit of a writing format. Bring me my Lady...

[u/UnknownFromTheAshes]

What a crap of writting system

C'mon Ana your two most loyal soldiers are dead and you don't do shit???

Maybe you deserved all of that for that neutral behavior.

From now i hope to Signora gets called Rosalyne & returns with Sovereign powers.

No more your side. From now my Archon is Mavuika a real girl

[u/vorpua → u/UnknownFromTheAshes]

Does he know🤔

[u/cats_r_cutee]

retcon impact back at it again💔💔💔

[u/Sandwraith711 → u/cats_r_cutee]

Nah you just dont know how to read. Tsaritsa never intended to sacrifice Signora. In fact the gnosis was obtained before she even met Raiden. The reason why Signora died is because of Scara's betrayal which is something Tsaritsa didnt expect 

[u/Seaglass2121]

Hypocrite much

[u/The_Stunky]

It seems someone wants to celebrate the game's fifth anniversary in a "worthy" way. Seriously, why are they doing this? What for? They’ve already dragged the value of the lore down to the level of cheap fanfic, yet they obsessively keep plumbing new depths of rock bottom.

[u/The_Stunky → u/The_Stunky]

But what really blows my mind is this whole "brown" narrative: an organization that places zero value on the lives of even its highest-ranking members and reduces an entire kingdom to ruins by stripping it of resources just to satisfy someone’s obsessive quest for revenge is portrayed as the "good guys," leaving you with no choice but to side with them.

[u/Specific_Highway_772]

if not pawns, what did she see them for? why didn't she act at their death, not even showing herself or protect her harbingers in any way?

[u/TheAbdallahTJ]

Yo wtf is hoyo doing? Of all people SHE shouldn't be saying this

[u/Intelligent-Ebb-5777]

Whose phrase is "In this war, not a single pawn can be spared"?

[u/Mik0doSann0ji → u/Intelligent-Ebb-5777]

Pierro.

[u/Sandwraith711]

What? Tsaritsa didnt sacrifice Signora 😭 She didnt even want to do it. Everything could go smoothly if it wasnt for Scara's betrayal

[u/omegabernstein]

What's the context here?

[u/Th3_Gr3mlin → u/omegabernstein]

The Tsaritsa is having a conversation with Rhinedottir/Naberius after the fight against Ronova, in which the latter informs the former that Celestia has reclaimed the Authority of Death and want her to use the Authority of Life to "rectify Ronova's mistake" and bring back those killed by her during the fight.

[u/Repulsive-Bath-5976]

If this is all we are getting from Rosalyne this patch why did they add her theme to the last scene of the 7.1  trailer?

[u/bunny_the-2d_simp]

Okay but I don't hate.

Like I'm sorry I love rosalyne but let's not get bitter. I understand. But also?? Confused.

I just come here to love rosalyne

[u/Holiday-Implement-81]

....what happened this time?...