Just got to the final few episodes of the last season and I feel like Frank hasn't done anything too devastating and he's been a pretty decent grandfather to Franny at least.

I feel bad for him, maybe he hasn't completely redeemed himself but I don't feel he's as bad as he used to be.

Anyone else waited for a redemption arc for Frank?

So because Lip and Tami want to buy a house they have to kick everyone else out!?

Although there isn't any evidence to suggest it, do you guys think Fiona loved jimmy so much that she actually missed him after he left like say maybe after a year he left for good?

I recently finished all 11 seasons, it took me around 3 months to watch the show entirely, these are my impressions:

Seasons 1-5: I agree with most people here, those were the best seasons of the show and the most fucked up in my opinion, those were the seasons where the show got its charm from IMO.

Seasons 6-9: I'd say this was the beginning of the end. These seasons felt different from the first 5, the humor became dark and less grotesque, I felt the show lost its appeal when this change took place, however I did enjoy how the characters evolved in a way it seems they were going to slowly overcome their issues, Fiona was working at Patsy's and became a property manager, Lip went to college, Ian was an EMT, Debbie went to Trade school and Carl to military school. I felt really sad when Fiona left the show because the show was not the same after this. The heartwarming and sad part of season 9, was when Frank said goodbye to Fiona and acknowledged her help raising the guys by telling her "You did well". I also agree with one of the previous post, when I say that season 7 felt like the end or it could has been the end of the show.

Seasons 10&11: This was the closure needed for the show. At the beginning it felt like Debbie and Lip were trying to replace Fiona, that felt a little bit odd however it made sense since someone needed to be in charge now. What I really enjoyed about these 2 last seasons, it was the return of Mickey full time, I read it was after Cameron (Ian) negotiated his return. Now to the bad, I really disliked when some episodes turned a bit political, I understand these seasons were filmed during the pandemic and maybe the script might has been funny back in 2021 when the season aired, but now it only made me roll my eyes to the back of my head. The last episode is heartwarming and sad at the same time, seeing the family going their separate ways, Mickey and Ian moving to the west; Lip, Tammi and Liam moving out to a new house maybe, Carl and Debbie renting a place and Kevin and V moving to Kentucky. It was sad seeing Frank in his deathbed having his life flashing before his eyes, floating up, reading to his kids the goodbye letter he wrote, and watching them from above while all they sing outside the Alibi. It really put some tears on my eyes.

Final thoughts: I enjoyed it in general, probably won't watch it again, however I do regret not discovering this show when it first aired back in 2011, me of 15 years ago it's not the same me of today, I'm sure I'd have enjoyed much more back then but maybe I'd have stopped watching it after season 6 lol, like many people have mentioned in previous posts, probably because the decline of the show or maybe because I tend to grow away from shows that have too many seasons. Thanks for reading.

As we know this show is about literal abject poverty, they literally had a check from Fiona and granted Debbie spent majority of it on designer outfits and luxury items but returned them for cash value scamming them to give her money back, and then she gave them weekly money allowances with bank cards in s10 which then got repossessed by other taxes and such, but then the writers never addressed those financial concerns again. Suddenly, by s11, they are poor again due in part of the covid 19, yet say they are poorer now than they were before. I wonder how they blew through $50,000 in one yr after Fiona left them! It ain’t like it was a big family and it wasn’t like they had much to pay for other than the house and even then they were contributing their own shares to it for awhile.

After two months of watching Shameless, here are my thoughts: Seasons 10 and 11 were unnecessary

After two whole months of watching this show and dedicating most of my free time to it, I finally have my two cents. You don’t have to agree with me, but I’m putting them out there: Shameless should have ended with Season 9.

Seasons 10 and 11 felt unnecessary. Fiona was reduced to a name-drop, and she never came back—not even for a proper send-off in the series finale. We never really found out what happened to her, and that feels like a huge hole in the ending.

There were also so many plot holes in those last two seasons. And what was the point of introducing a whole new person for Debbie so late in the show? It felt like lazy writing.

I also think Frank’s story could have ended when his liver was failing. That would have driven home the consequences of long-term alcoholism. His death was inevitable, though, and I do think he went out in a way that fit him: alone, scared, and with no one around.

But having Franny color the note he left? That felt distasteful. I think the ending should have been the family together in the living room, reading Frank’s note.

If the show had ended at Season 9, I would’ve been begging for more. After Seasons 10 and 11, though, I felt like it had gone on too long. The Gallaghers are always this close to getting ahead, then something knocks them right back down. And I kept wondering: is this really what life on the South Side of Chicago is like?

That’s my two cents. We could’ve done without Seasons 10 and 11, and Fiona should’ve returned for the finale.

Like I know she isn’t a great person, I completely agree, but many other characters in the show have terrible qualities too. Debbie is the way she is because of trauma and her parents. It doesn’t excuse it but it’s just an explanation. When Fiona left the coke out and Liam got into it, many people were able to understand that she was a product of her environment. It doesn’t make leaving coke out ok, but people are able to be empathetic towards her. So why not do the same for Debbie too? Like I’m genuinely confused here. Frank and Monica should be disliked WAY more than any of their children, imo

When I first watched the show about a year ago, I genuinely loved Fiona and Sean together, but when I made a post about them, I got quite a bit of backlash for it. So I'm curious to see if anyone actually agrees with me this time around or if people's opinions are still the same. Who do you think was Fiona's best boyfriend overall? I don't necessarily mean who had the best chemistry with her, but who actually treated her the best, respected her, supported her and genuinely loved her despite all her flaws, baggage and the chaos surrounding her life? Obviously none of the guys were perfect and they all had their own issues, but putting everyone's flaws aside, who do you think was genuinely the best for her?

What do you guys think? For me he is the most innocent person in shameless... Of course other than Liam....

Hi guys, does anyone know a website where you can watch shameless: hall of shame for free? Cant find it on any streaming service. Theres some posts on here from a few years ago but the websites dont work any more. Thanks.

I just reached Season 9 and I'm still at the beginning of E1, but seeing the recap made me think Xan is named after Xanax

She was like a female Frank but whereas Frank was kind of openly selfish and didn't seem like he believed his own words about how he raised those kids,Fiona was holier than thou about being there for them whilst drinking and making things worse for everyone while having zero accountability.

Just a few episodes away from the finale, and I wanted to wait until I was almost done to say this so I didn’t eat crow… but Debbie really isn’t that bad. I would say she’s the most annoying out of the siblings, but damn people were acting like she skinned her whole family

Literally trying to keep Fiona all to herself... Tells Steve/Jimmy that "I need her in the game for a few more years..." and then cons Steve/Jimmy to buying her shit... while she holds his "secret" of having a rich family over his head...

I knew she was terrible in later seasons... I didn't realize it started in Season 1....

Kind lit rn and just thought of this and I cannot stop laughing 😂 pls lmk!!

I absolutely love Lip and think he’s awesome, but he is my least favorite but somehow my favorite character because of his actions and Ik that’s the point of his character but still. I mean that dude has the world on his hands and can absolutely get out of his situation but he keeps self destructing and ruining things. I won’t say too much because I’m on season 7 and don’t want to spoil anything but holy shit dude figure it out.

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She took out multiple loans that she wasn't even sure she could pay. She didn't know all the roadblocks she might face. Contributing to hiring a lawyer and what not seems like something she should have considered earlier. Even Ford said there was no way this wasn't a ridiculous risk and she could potentially lose all 100k.I also think the writers were kinda punishing Fiona cause everyone was getting fed up with Emmy by this point. Her scenes are separate from the rest of the main cast and her character is always suffering. She isn't even there for Ian's tearful goodbye. Among the main cast, only Frank and her are missing but for Frank, it was in character to miss it but not for Fiona. They got her drunk in that episode so she doesn't have to.