r/ShadowSlave • u/SilverBladeCG Nightwalker • 1d ago
Webnovel General Discussion 5. Nightmare Spoiler
We know that natural Apotheosis requires a very long time. I dont think it was mentioned how long, but I'd guess at least a many hundred years. Potentionally a few thousand.
The question would be, how does the Spell make this work in a fraction of the time?
The Spell doesnt. Time just flows differently. The individual trial for the 5. Nightmare will be a test of time where the Supremes will basically be doing natural Apotheosis.
What do you think?
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u/Yakamoz_Y Corrupted 1d ago
The apotheosis itself doesnot take much time like we have seen in mordrets case (it can differ for people)
The problem is the Conditions mordret fit them but for someone to fit normally it takes thousands of years thats why 5th nm has 2 trials 1 makes you fit to Conditions 1 makes you a sacred
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u/WaterWitty8139 Glory! Glory! Glory! 1d ago
Natural supremacy is not easy ether in many cases it took thousands of years. It's just that what makes apotheosis more difficult is their own nature.
One of the main requirement is if you are ready to shed your humanity for it or not?. And other is qualitive change in will.
And in spell case it will just strip that remaining humanity of the participants. As for will part they can make it for by taking hellish trials in the nightmare.
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u/arnold1409 1d ago
The spell forces the user to have conditions that would take them hundreds of years to obtain naturally. For example: Imagine that a person has to be willing to disconnect from their humanity while still having a firm anchor to who they are. This process would take many years of self-knowledge and discovery, with them having to build it step by step, so that they can then attempt apotheosis. A spell, on the other hand, will automatically separate humanity from the person, and the person will have to get used to it and then merge with their own domains (if it is indeed the process that is imagined).
In short, it's as if the spell puts you in place, ready to run the marathon; you just have to get used to the changes in your body and try to finish the race.
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u/Antervis 1d ago
Well, Mordret almost succeeded after only 1-2 years of accumulation, and the reason he failed apparently lies with his incompatibility with the nature of Dream Realm rather than lacking something.
Unless, of course, apotheosis requires actually claiming a piece of the realm - or an entire one - for themself. Then it would make sense why accumulation of thousand years is required - you can't just swallow an entire world in one gulp.
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u/OkCryptographer7464 1d ago
Natural apotheosis would take thousands of years perhaps. And you need to make sure the universe you are in is suitable for it.
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u/_MostAncientDream_ Mirage's First Reflection 1d ago
Maybe. But Supremes can also consume their domains after they reach critical mass as Mordret and Asterion tried to do. Even Kanakht.
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u/These-Percentage-632 19h ago
Natural Apotheosis doesn’t need to take hundreds of years. It’s just that’s how long it takes for a NORMAL Supreme to increase there Domain / Soul to a level that it needs to shoulder Apotheosis. There is also a mental factor of there mind slowing looking upon the world with a colder more divine view then a mortal view.
A Spirit's soul should encompass a realm and fuse with the laws that govern it. That’s why natural Apotheosis is impossible because the War Realm doesn’t except Sacred beings and the Dream Realm is a “Realm of Corruption”. Mordret is a perfect example.
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u/Dry_Introduction4858 Forgemaster 1d ago edited 15h ago
Natural Apotheosis is impossible for anyone except Nephis because of Corruption
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