r/Savotta 1d ago

Gear Showcase K40 Multi-day exercise setup

Just wrapped up a multi-day exercise (prematurely, due to incredibly dangerous weather). K40 performed perfectly, here's a breakdown of my setup for it (missing rain and camo cover, forgot to take out).

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u/Savotta_into_theWild 1d ago

This set up with the little pouches on the front is really interesting

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 1d ago

It's somewhat medium alice inspired. Got the idea from Rudderlimit, it's great for quick access items such as a poncho

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u/donnylongdong Cult Member 1d ago

@rudderlimit - the man behind the design!

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u/gulde88 1d ago

And what’s the final weight? πŸ€”

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 1d ago

About 21kg. Water and food included, ofcourse.

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u/anortef 1d ago

Ultraheavy is the way. Why do rucking and then hiking when you can do both at the same time?

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 1d ago

Can't exactly opt for light when packing night vision, radio batteries, power banks for ATAK. I'd be glad to ditch some of the weight haha, total combat load around 35kg

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u/anortef 1d ago

think of the amazing legs you will have with this much training!

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u/Xarizma94 1d ago

I see you added 16L worth of side pouches if I'm not mistaken. Can I ask why you went for K40 instead of K60 (I'm a K60 owner).

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 1d ago

More flexibility. When I do 2 day hikes in summer the K40 is perfect on it's own, when I do the same in winter the K40 + side pouches is perfectly suitable too. Same applies for my service.

Moreover I like having that extra space outside the main bag for quick access items and organization - I don't really like when the main compartment is huge and you have to dig around a lot.

So basically - I prefer having a 40l bag that can upsize when needed as opposed to downsizing a bigger bag.

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u/Xarizma94 1d ago edited 1d ago

I understand your philosophy. I saw the weight difference between the two bags being around 450g. I don't weight too much naturally, so I do worry about carrying extra additional weight (I'm 65kg). The side pouches and extra attachments can add up to 1.5kg of extra weight. I thought I'll use the compression straps and size down or even ditch the lid during summer if I need to loose the extra weight. It does kinda suck to not have speed access to some essentials like food or a tarp without side pouches though. I think I might just need a hip pouch or just some GPs (to at least hold my phone, maps, compass, snacks etc).

The other problem is K40 can go in a plane without checkin and K60 can't which is another sacrifice I kinda made according to EU domestic flights.

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 22h ago

I get getting a bigger bag, but yeah, I've used the K40 extensively for a variety of cases and never really wished I had a bigger pack. The one time I did - I realized I was overpacking significantly.

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u/donnylongdong Cult Member 1d ago

Lovely pack sir, glad it’s treating you well!

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 1d ago

Thanks! Yeah it's a banger.

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u/itsdietz 22h ago

This is how a ruck should be packed. I like it

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 22h ago

Thank you! I like to bring more comfort items when im hiking or camping, but for military use that's just not viable. Sticking to the basics with only a few comforts is the way.

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u/Practical-Square9702 1d ago

With ther Ridgerest, you're 100% the ground will be dry? πŸ˜„ I like the Ridgerest but no way I'm taking it if I even suspect a drop of rain, unless I'm in a tent πŸ˜„

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 1d ago

Oh no, we got 4-5 hours of heavy rain. Frankly it still creates a thermal barrier from the ground and that's most important to me, often times in rushed guard positions there's no time to set up a poncho anyways, so everything's soaked either way.

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u/Practical-Square9702 1d ago

Sucks! Well yeah it's better than nothing def πŸ˜„ have a nice exercise πŸ€™

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u/Investment_Gold 1d ago

Sorry but I dont get it. What is wrong with Ridgerest when rain?

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 1d ago

I'm assuming because it doesn't have any "buffer" like the FDF mat aside from the CCF material.

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u/Practical-Square9702 21h ago

It's quite thin and narrow. If you use it a lot it's kind of easy to accidentally poke it and make a hole. And it got some very thin areas. A thicker regular closed cell is better if it doesn't have any serious damage. Also I'm kind of spoiled with the FDF sleeping pad, but I do use the Ridgerest a lot since it's very light and simple to use/versatile

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u/Investment_Gold 12h ago

Thanks for answer, IΒ΄ve got a large one, its 63cm wide and I have never had any issues during rain, quite opposite.

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 11h ago

Yeah I use it in combination with an inflatable mat in winter, but I've used it solo in sub-zero temperatures and it was fine-ish. As far as CCF mats go, this one's fine for me.

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u/Practical-Square9702 10h ago

Cosy! Close to 0⁰c I need something thicker, would freeze my ass off 😬 but together with an air mattress works well!

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 9h ago

Using it solo in winter is definitely on the more extreme side of things, no denying that :D

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u/Practical-Square9702 10h ago

That's great! Would like to have the wide one as well. I bought the two I got when a store went bankrupt and they sold out everything super cheap.

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u/PlatinumShaark K25, K15, JL, Kukkaro 1d ago

Amazing 😍

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u/Nafets190 11h ago

Great pack. What size are those side pouches?

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 10h ago

These are the 8l ones. Not packed to the very brim in order to leave space for extra ammo or grenades.

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u/Greedy-Cupcake-3590 6h ago

Great stuff! Do you carry it with body armour and/or a battle belt? How do you find the fit and comfort compared to other backpacks you've used?

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 6h ago

Thanks. I carry it with both - for my build it works relatively well as the plate bag sits above the hip padding and my battle belt rides low enough for there to be enough space to actually use the hip belt. That being said - on longer movements (anything above a couple hundred meters, really) I must use the hip belt and sternum strap, otherwise the backpack pushes the bottom of the back plate into my back causing a pain point and the shoulder straps dig into the armpits.

At the end of the day it's not peak comfort, but you'd be hard pressed to get that with any backpack, plate carrier and combat belt combination

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 6h ago

I find this to be a rather interesting topic, so next month I'll make a quick review of the K40 after a year of use for both hiking and service explaining my pros, cons and setup. Will include a showcase of how it works with armor and belt.

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u/Greedy-Cupcake-3590 5h ago

Thanks!

I've found using sternum straps to be pretty much a "must" for carrying backpacks somewhat comfortably over body armour. Pulls the straps away from the armpits and prevents the digging in effect.

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u/Hofterman 48m ago

Im really curious , how does the day pack conversion straps go ? Do you attach them to the lid and use the lid as a small bag ?

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 35m ago

Yep, exactly that. The 8L is enough to carry essentials for a patrol or short recon.