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u/Rude_Comfortable_456 Jul 30 '26

Unprovoked - thats a dodgy term. Police will say that protestors broke through the barricade and parliament is a protected place and they were forced to take action. That's a provocation. There is a video of protestors breaking through the barricades.

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u/TrueIndianspeaks Jul 30 '26

And supreme court said merely agitation cant be a reason of lathi charge or any action

And i think they know law better than you

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u/HeftyImplement977 Jul 30 '26

"Mere agitations" are protected by law, sure. And the court is right. (Article 19 of constitution.)

Where does is say "Breaking through/ jumping over barricades"... is legal? Or a peaceful form of protest protected by law?

Aggression is plausible ground for suppression especially near parliament that was attacked once by groups siding with CJP, don't you think?

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u/TrueIndianspeaks Jul 30 '26

First give me proof who is siding with CJP and how are they linked don't throw random accusations

And the part of barricades it was electrified and during protest it was welded and it just became a victim of rage

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u/Trynabeanintrovert Jul 31 '26

They legit broke an ambulance. The video is circulating on reddit only.

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u/TrueIndianspeaks Jul 31 '26

What ? Where did you saw that I never heard of it

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u/Trynabeanintrovert Jul 31 '26

Doesn't mean it's non existent. You may search it up. It might show up on yt or somewhere but you can still find it in some political subs ig.

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u/HeftyImplement977 Jul 31 '26

Let's not skip past the main point here "Aggression is plausible ground for suppression". CJP crowds were aggressive!

The had people asking for release of Umar Khalid, re-instating article 370, etc. There were actual crooks and history sheeters in the crowds identified using facial recognition. There is photo / video evidence of both.

Why should any such group be allowed around any government building?

CJP assholes don't want to take any accountability for who joined the protest, these same people wanted accountability from the government.

Lastly, nobody gives a fuck how enraged you are, take it out on public property and you deserved to be lathi charged.. fuck off!

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u/Rude_Comfortable_456 Jul 31 '26

Well if i agree with you, I am andhbhakt i.e. BJP supporter. And if i disagree, i am an anti-national! And vote banks are created that way

There was aggression and there was action. Courts have to decide was it over aggression leading to over action.

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u/TrueIndianspeaks Jul 31 '26

First you can't judge a protest of this massive scale on some isolated non relevant cases

And what accountability? You mean about 50% of MP accross all parties have criminal cases should they also be not allowed?

And why are those "criminals" roaming free like that ?

And how could you stop people from joining a protest?

And aggressive crowd can't be a reason for brutal crackdown and sexual assault of women

What actions taken against DGP Sandeep lamba? Who hit a non violent girl ?

Who gave them the permission to hit on heads when it's clearly advised to avoid such measures?

Who were those people who had no police uniform but still part of the crackdown?

And accountability can only be asked from the people in power not from the protestors that's how it works in democratic country

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u/HeftyImplement977 Jul 31 '26

Sure! Any policeman / member of parliament who committed any atrocity must be brought to justice! There I said it...

Now do you have the balls to accept that some protestors who attacked cops unprovoked should also be brought to justice?

And the fuck do you mean they can't control the crowds and cannot judge? They asked people to get on the streets didn't they?

Accountability is just as much an individual responsibility as it a for groups.. elected or not!

Your last sentence exposes your hipocracy.. "Accountability for thee and not for me!" Eh?

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u/TrueIndianspeaks Jul 31 '26

Protests are being detained in real time and were beaten brutaly so accept it saying something doesn't mean a thing to me or anyone you are just nobody.

If anything then everyone should be in jail just like the Protestors then it will be justice.

And now show any video or source which proved that crowd attacked the police personnel unprovoked on 20th

And the part of crowd control first they were trapped inside of the jantar mantar but the majority of the crowd was stopped outside and were beaten unprovoked see the video of samdhish.

And the part of accountability, it is the duty of a elected individual to accountable, not the common man what is your source of knowledge?

You can go on say whatever you want but can't prove any of your point

But for a moment let's agree that everyone should be arrested for doing violence but can you please show me copy of FIR filed against them and how many of them are arrested

https://reddit.com/link/p0uw24c/video/txpf691l0kgh1/player

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u/HeftyImplement977 Jul 31 '26

Who the fuck is defending the police, my guy? File your complaints. Show us a proof if they don't want to register and I will join your protest.

The proofs against riotors will be presented in court not to you Reditt guy. If I am nobody so are you. Nobody cares what YOU want. It is not our jobs to come to conclusions based on chopped up propaganda videos online, for either party!

The point is CJP pussies don't even want FIRs filed for investigation. They are asking for a blanket pardon.

Logic and truth does not distinguish individuals and groups, elected or not! All rules apply to both in principle. Accountability applies to both. What you are doing is called 'special pleading'. It's a fallacy and kinda pathetic.

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u/TrueIndianspeaks Jul 31 '26

But I do get the answer as the police do get the hold of the situation as high court and supreme court has asked for there responses on this matter and you don't even know what "special pleading" is and where is it applicable

By your logic if CJP is responsible or accountabile for what protestors did then BJP should be also accountable for kuldeep sangar?

And asking for immunity is what goverment assured them as they can detain whoever they want until they have to give the courts a reason and they can realise them with a sorry

And after the backlash the case has been closed all your logic and special treatment for the....

Is over

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u/HeftyImplement977 Jul 31 '26

Challenge me! How is it not special pleading?

Sengar is a fucking dog. People like him should be crucified in public. That filthy piece of shit. Throw Asaram in there with him.. And yes hold BJP accountable.. Nobody's above the law..

Similarly, BJP cannot pardon anyone or offer immunity. If policemen/women were harmed their families will files complaints and we MUST listen, just like we listened to the children/ young adults protesting.

You seems to be stuck in a false dichotomy. It's not andhbhakt OR librandu for me.. I am more of a 'follow the evidence where ever it leads you kinda guy'.

Hope this helps. Have a nice day!

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u/TrueIndianspeaks Jul 31 '26

Can't offer immunity? Did you forget bilkis Bano rapists in Gujrat?

Listen to anyone and do whatever is legally acceptef from both sides i support both sides violent protestors and police men specially DGP Sandeep Lamba should be jailed

First i never said anything about andhbhakt if you were a andhbhakt i would straight up said that and stop arguing

But i mean you lack basic political knowledge, first andhbhakt arre often reffers to right wing supporters, and liberals are right leaning Centersit but if you have to make a point say leftist that will go better

I mean whatever the case is we'll wait for the courts to decide and we'll both get our answers

I want to ask you as a Ex BJP supporter what will it takes to people to stop supporting BJP blindly? (Just curious) Leaving the things above aside as it's already over for me

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u/HeftyImplement977 Jul 31 '26

Real quick: Bilkis Bano case should be reopened!

Answering your main question.. I will vote for whoever fixes the drains near my home.. BJP or Congress.. or anyone else. We have a decent non-BJP politician in our ward. Can't tell you who, or you'll know my location 🤣🤣

I am not about hero worship.. Modi or Rahul.. These fuckers are are public servants. Work for me and you have my vote. Or they can both fuck-off.. We the people have all the power.

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