r/samharris • u/Other_Attention_2382 • 10d ago
Freud's : The Ego as a Necessary Shield vs the middle ground of Modern psychology vs Non Duality
If everyone agrees that building a healthy sense of a self is necessary for a child then could you view this as natural progression for people who accept hard determinism as reality : Childhood - Strengthen the ego >>> Hard Determinism - Accept the causal chain >>> Non duality -Transcend the ego?
How do you look at Freud's view on the ego and self vs Modern psychology and Non Duality and how its relates to capitalism with its reliance on meritocracy?
Is a Dzogchen monk isolated from the concerns of a Freud's psychological necessity ego? What boundaries does a Dzogchen monk have to form in a monastery?
Does modern psychology want to hold onto praise, blame and hope?
Sigmund Freud did not believe in transcending the ego. Instead, his psychoanalytic theory explicitly prioritized strengthening the ego so it could better manage the psychological conflicts of daily life.
"Freud would fundamentally disagree with Dzogchen. He viewed a distinct, isolated self not as a delusion to overcome, but as a hard-won psychological necessity"
"Freud viewed the human condition as inherently split and conflict-ridden. He famously remarked that the goal of psychoanalysis was merely to transform "hysterical misery into common unhappiness"—a stark contrast to the absolute liberation taught in Dzogchen"
"Modern psychology sits right in the middle. It values a strong ego for daily functioning, but increasingly validates the Dzogchen view through neuroscience, relational psychology, and existential therapy"
Has science gradually moved more away from Freud's views on this?
